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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by angel1368
ive never had a go in an sti so cant comment on whats best etc but am i right in thinking my wrx will get to 60 quicker than the sti and is that a fact?
Sure is, and it will probably still be in front when you get to 80mph.
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 05:58 PM
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The only thing i can think i havent got is the 6spd and dccd but not all sti have that anyway
AVCS heads?
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kevfawcett

AVCS heads?
This is true;you got me there
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyJim2
This is true;you got me there
r180 rear diff
rear 316mm discs and brembo 2 pots
i/c water spray
sti stronger bottom end
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by angel1368
ive never had a go in an sti so cant comment on whats best etc but am i right in thinking my wrx will get to 60 quicker than the sti and is that a fact?
I couldn't even tell you which was faster,a standard wrx or standard sti and i don't even care to be honest,its only guys like thomas i banter with.but i know my modified wrx is a fast car.so much more than a standard wrx or sti
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyJim2
Should mention my friends standard wrx blob,could be in 5th at 30mph without much drama. Its obviously depends on mods and set-up
It's strange tbh, some Subaru owners say it just can't be done (even those with shorter ratios) but my car is as happy as Larry at 30mph in 5th. Picks up reasonably well too without stutter. Obviously if I needed to increase speed fast I'd knock it down to 2nd.
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas

r180 rear diff
rear 316mm discs and brembo 2 pots
i/c water spray
sti stronger bottom end
Dont need water spray on a fmic really.
I have a scdb and forged internals with drilled ground & balance crank,among other stuff.
Rear brake calipers don't require a change. I've only fitted one set of discs n pads to the rear since owning car,where I've been through a few front sets.
The diff i would consider being part of the 6spd set-up which i mentioned i dont want

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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyJim2
I couldn't even tell you which was faster,a standard wrx or standard sti and i don't even care to be honest,its only guys like thomas i banter with.but i know my modified wrx is a fast car.so much more than a standard wrx or sti
You saw the vid I posted of a well launched 348bhp STI running 13.9 and the WR1 racing it getting 15.1?

Well here's a 215bhp Bugeye WRX matching them -


The best Subaru made imo is the Blob WRX V-limited, it has a strong AVCS engine and STI styling and doesn't have the 6 speed and Brembos which in the real world kills acceleration dramatically.

I have an hard-on for the car in the foreground.

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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt

It's strange tbh, some Subaru owners say it just can't be done (even those with shorter ratios) but my car is as happy as Larry at 30mph in 5th. Picks up reasonably well too without stutter. Obviously if I needed to increase speed fast I'd knock it down to 2nd.
My friends car's like yours but my isn't as refined at all lol. Do you have many mods?
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyJim2
My friends car's like yours but my isn't as refined at all lol. Do you have many mods?
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
The best Subaru made imo is the Blob WRX V-limited, it has a strong AVCS engine and STI styling and doesn't have the 6 speed and Brembos which in the real world kills acceleration dramatically.
Haha, you really have lost it. I'm going to love to see how you explain that one!?
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster

Nope I'd say your just a bit of an idiot that feels the need to make himself feel better at the expense of others, but the sad reality is that you end up making yourself look rather pathetic, but hey simple things please simple minds.
He has almost taken the place of pslewis, but at the other end of the scale.
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kevfawcett
Haha, you really have lost it. I'm going to love to see how you explain that one!?
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kevfawcett
Haha, you really have lost it. I'm going to love to see how you explain that one!?
Smaller lighter disks which have a large effect on rotational mass. It's the primary reason why I chose lightweight alloys.
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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...and lightweight tuner nuts.
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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they are bigger granted but this is due to them being better to stop the car with, the impreza is not a drag car after all its a performance road car and performance road cars need good brakes
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 07:08 PM
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The WRX is about 20% faster than an STI due to weight, higher rotational mass, extra gear change and transmission losses.

Ergo as the power levels increase in both the more power an STI needs to keep up with the WRX.

Example 1: an STI will need around 360bhp to keep up with a 300bhp WRX
Example 2: An STI will need around 430bhp to keep up with a 360bhp WRX

Power levels beyond these are expensive for both and the cars will no longer be real world performers. Both will need forging and a strong 5 speed gearbox for both will be a good argument for chasing times.
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
The WRX is about 20% faster than an STI due to weight, higher rotational mass, extra gear change and transmission losses.

Ergo as the power levels increase in both the more power an STI needs to keep up with the WRX.

Example 1: an STI will need around 360bhp to keep up with a 300bhp WRX
Example 2: An STI will need around 430bhp to keep up with a 360bhp WRX

Power levels beyond these are expensive for both and the cars will no longer be real world performers. Both will need forging and a strong 5 speed gearbox for both will be a good argument for chasing times.
mine did 12.8 with 260 bhp yours 12.6 with 330 bhp so yet again youre wrong
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
they are bigger granted but this is due to them being better to stop the car with, the impreza is not a drag car after all its a performance road car and performance road cars need good brakes
...and good traffic free roads.

Away from the track uprated pads, racing fluid and braided brake hoses are more than enough for a lighter WRX with less than 360bhp.
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
...and good traffic free roads.

Away from the track uprated pads, racing fluid and braided brake hoses are more than enough for a lighter WRX with less than 360bhp.
if you drive like a girl yes the crappy 4 pots will stop you once or twice then overheat and fade away when faced with stopping a heavy old newage more than a few times.
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 07:17 PM
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RS Matt,
Let's makes this a bit fairer.....

What's the weight of your vehicle and what has been your best time down the 1/4, and at what power level?
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt

You saw the vid I posted of a well launched 348bhp STI running 13.9 and the WR1 racing it getting 15.1?

Well here's a 215bhp Bugeye WRX matching them -

Video Link: http://youtu.be/ba1pVISMU6c

The best Subaru made imo is the Blob WRX V-limited, it has a strong AVCS engine and STI styling and doesn't have the 6 speed and Brembos which in the real world kills acceleration dramatically.

I have an hard-on for the car in the foreground.
And that wrx sounds very standard lol
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt

You saw the vid I posted of a well launched 348bhp STI running 13.9 and the WR1 racing it getting 15.1?

Well here's a 215bhp Bugeye WRX matching them -

Video Link: http://youtu.be/ba1pVISMU6c

The best Subaru made imo is the Blob WRX V-limited, it has a strong AVCS engine and STI styling and doesn't have the 6 speed and Brembos which in the real world kills acceleration dramatically.

I have an hard-on for the car in the foreground.
This is like what i said about putting a 5spd in a sti to make it quicker
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt

Ecutek remap by Pat Herborn
STI 550 injectors
STI intercooler
TD05 16g Turbo
Blitz Nur spec backbox
Walbro 255l Fuel pump
NGK PFR7B plugs
JR Performance panel filter
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STI intercooler hose
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Subaru Black oil filter
Decat centre section
Decat DEI wrapped ported up-pipe
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GFB adjustable bov
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Short shift gear lever
Motordrive 5kg FIA custom racing seats
Aircon removed
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Boot carpet/jack & tools/jack bracket/spare wheel & clamp removed
Rear seat sound proofing removed
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Driver foot rest removed
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Rota GRA lightweight alloys
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BC Racing BR coilovers
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Whiteline 22mm rear anti-roll bar
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STI side skirts
Bremtech drilled & grooved disks
WRX PRO calipers
Goodridge Brake hoses
Mintex rear brake pads
5.1 Motul Brake Fluid
75-90 Millers diff oil
So you only have a couple of mods then maybe its because i have fmic
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyJim2

So you only have a couple of mods then maybe its because i have fmic
How many horseys and torque,do you know?
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
if you drive like a girl yes the crappy 4 pots will stop you once or twice then overheat and fade away when faced with stopping a heavy old newage more than a few times.
I won't lie, my stock brakes failed within 3 miles at 280bhp the first time I pushed it hard on country roads, the smell was like nothing I've ever smelt before.

Since getting uprated fluid, hoses, cross drilled and vented disks I've not had a problem, even at 330bhp.

No word of a lie, if I got an STI one day I'd swap out the 6 speed, get WRX brakes on and take all the external STI badges/stickers off.

Fast cars for me have always been about straight line acceleration, never about cornering or late braking. No car has ever over taken me on the inside on a public road or just before a corner so I enter corners slowly then power out, I make other cars wait behind me for the exit.
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Originally Posted by scoobyJim2
So you only have a couple of mods then maybe its because i have fmic
if you read it he does just a wrx with bits taken off, a laggy old tdo5 and sti bits to fool the girls in maccy ds into thinking he has an sti
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyJim2
This is like what i said about putting a 5spd in a sti to make it quicker
An STI with less than 360bhp would fly with a 5 speed. But for track/off road use an Impreza needs to pick up speed without having to launch or carry speed over from previous gears, especially when getting out of shape.
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Originally Posted by kevfawcett

Haha, you really have lost it. I'm going to love to see how you explain that one!?
He explained it as he posted it! 'Same avcs,smaller brakes ie. Lighter! It also is 5spd which accelerate faster than 6spd'
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
they are bigger granted but this is due to them being better to stop the car with, the impreza is not a drag car after all its a performance road car and performance road cars need good brakes
In a straight line you don't need brakes!? Especially when most of you guys talk in 1/4 mile times.
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