f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Yep like someone promising us an EU referendum if we elect them

warrenm2

I really can't understand this. Even the average bloke in the street knows by now they can't deliver this as it would be against EU rules. The only possible outcome from this is fail. What are they thinking?

(And look at the bottom of that article... The BBC is run by children....

The full list of candidates announced so far, in alphabetical order by surname, is:

Gregory, Clive - Green Party
Fransen, Jayda - Britain First
Juby, Geoff - Liberal Democrats
Khan, Naushabah - Labour
Reckless, Mark - UK Independence Party
Tolhurst, Kelly - Conservatives)

Martin2005

So this is great. Now we have all the main parties pledging to do unspeakable damage to our country.

Whatever happened to the truth?

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

Just out of interest, why do you want the UK out of the EU and why are you even bothering to vote when you plan on leaving the UK for OZ next year.

Vote Tory like me because I want them to stay in the EU so I can get my pension out here in Croatia.

RA Dunk

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Finally the penny is starting to drop

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Because I feel the EU is doing unspeakable damage to the UK and being someone who looks further than his own lot I don't like it. It isn't about immigration for me, it's about trying to unite desperately disparate nations some of which are barely in Europe geographically to be one large federal organisation in terms of laws, the economy, the currency etc.

It cannot work and just results in every country in the union with a half decent economy and standard of living subsidising those with lesser economies. That's still admirable until you realise there are vast differences in those countries' way of life. The Germans who often work more than 5 days a week on average were very unhappy at bailing out Greece who they see as lazy and crooked (with some justification).

Although it's an expression I hate, the issue is that we are not all singing from the same hymn sheet and what was originally a trade agreement has become a political experiment gone wrong.

We keep being told by the Europhiles that leaving the EU would damage business with other European countries. That is nothing more than a smokescreen. Business cares little for political treaties and nonsense unions... business cares about the bottom line and as we have never had the Euro the impact will be minimal.

Finally we have never really been in the EU proper anyway. Our governments have picked and chosen what to implement to suit them. Look at alcohol and tobacco taxation for instance. Massively higher in the UK than most other European countries.... that's a common trade policy for you

Time to rid ourselves of the European baggage and get on with it on our own!

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

I think I pretty much agree with all of that especially the cultural differences, out here swinging the lead is a way of life, most do as little as possible in their day job and a very large proportion of people have some sort of side line to make extra cash, wages are really poor here for 80% of people, most I know earn between £3/500 pcm with the odd one or two on £6/700 pcm, so I kind of understand them having something on the side.

Problem with this though is it undermines the economy, but the government are so stupid and tax business to the hilt as well as making it so difficult to get a business up and running that it becomes a vicious circle, subsequently the economy is in the toilet and the governments response is to tax people even more and sell everything that makes any money to foreign companies, then give them subsidies.

Corruption is rife.

P.S, I won't be voting Tory or at all for that matter, I have only voted 3 times out of the 30 years I have been eligible, with no intension of ever doing so again.

scoobydooooo

well you are in no situation to comment then ^^^^ if you cant be bothered to vote , anyway getting back to politics , I saw milliband , sorry Wallace getting his **** kicked on tv by mylene klass maybe she should be running the country

dpb

Well, she's certainly better looking.

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

Nothing to do not being bothered to vote, I would go to the polling station if there was a 'Non of the above' option but since there isn't then there is no point going.

I don't vote because I don't think any of the candidates or parties in our political system are worthy of my vote, I refuse to vote for someone that I do not support and further more I think that anyone that votes for someone they don't support is an idiot.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Perfectly put

dpb

Better hope wreckless party don't get in Ditchy

You might get turfed out the there, have to come back to blighty.

hodgy0_2

you could simply write "none of the above" - it would go down as a spoilt ballot, but still a "vote"

mrtheedge2u2

If any one of the parties stood there and said "we messed up, it is our fault, and we will fix it" it would be a good start. None will do that so it is simply the case of being governed by a bunch of ***** i.e. Conservatives or by an even bigger bunch of lying ***** i.e. Labour.

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

I own property and have my residency now so they can't turf me out.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Whatever are you wittering about now you establishment apologist?

dpb

Ah right yoos sorted then bro

Wasn't it ze Germans who were forced to sell their property in the last Spanish purge

RA Dunk

Your not far wrong either.

Martin2005

YOU'RE welcome

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

Not sure, but this lot slung the Italians out after WWII and divvied up the land between the workers.

Mind you I'm not too worried as the extension i'm currently building is going to be like a bunker by the time i'm finished, i'll wait the ******* out, they'll soon get bored and go to some festa somewhere, as i'm pretty sure they like a drink more than they hate me.

legb4rsk

I don't know why I bother but I was unfortunate enough to catch a few minutes of Prime MInisters Questions yesterday & guess what? Nothing has changed.
Serious questions being answered, or rather not answered, by deflecting the issue with childish insults & mis-directiing points scoring.The other morons in the house braying & haw-hawing at the pathetic attempts at humour.
You can hear better debating skills in any pre-pubesent playground in the land.

They still don't get that the public have had enough of this public school debating club fiasco.

Embarrassing,disappointing but mostly just sad really.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

It's utterly pathetic isn't it? Paid good money by the taxpayer to sit there behaving like a bunch of retarded chimps! Boils my p1ss whenever I have the misfortune to listen to it.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Couldn't agree more.

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

Yep, no wonder they want to maintain the status quo, they get paid vast sums of money between the lot of them to just ponce about basically doing **** all, the only thing they are busy doing is lining each others pockets, business breakfast,lunch and dinners, travel expenses, living expenses, office expenses, then if they actually have to make a decision, oh lets set up a committee full of our mates, pay them a fortune to examine all the information so we can brush it under the carpet and do **** all some more until the next thing comes along to distract the public from the fact that actually we do **** all but ponce about lining each others pockets.

Snigger, snigger.

As I said before Guy Fawkes had the right idea.

oops, I think we need to go on a fact finding mission, where's nice this time of year.

neil-h

Sounds like the local weatherspoons to me.

RA Dunk

Thank you.

'^^^Note the use of a full stop, you **** muncher.^^^'

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Where are the NSR Tory Massive with their excuses then?

Jay Cartay

iTrader: (3)

Excuses for what?

I hate them all.

I'm totally on board with stopping this open immigration rubbish, benefits for immigrants, taking back powers from the EU and us being in control of our own country etc.

I'm just not sure what would happen to everything else outside of those things if UKIP were to take power one day. Some of the candidates are real oddballs too!

I think it will be another two general elections before they have a realistic chance of being a genuine contender. That's because they need to get rid of the bad eggs and because they need to change the mindset of the general public into one which believes that a vote for UKIP could actually get them in, rather than it being pointless.

I'll probably vote Tory for the 2nd time in my life come the GE. I think they are the best of a bad bunch and I am certain we'd be in far worse shape had we had a Labour government in for this term.

But that's just my opinion.

neil-h

I don't know about excuses but I will leave you something to contemplate.

When are UKIP going to get an actual homegrown MP voted in? Rather than a Tory defector.