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Old Dec 7, 2014 | 06:59 PM
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Bit off topic but I think the AFP logo needs work.
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Go and tell Andy, then.
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You will see,what power are you want to be running ? And what weight yours car should have ?

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Agree about the 4EAT,they're great for drag racing,but in standard form they don't last

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I'll hopefull be going rotated on a GT35r within the year or so. So somewhere North of 600.

With regards to weight, the target is under 1000KG.
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Old Dec 7, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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Go and tell Andy, then.
I knocked this logo up for Tim. Drag Race theme of course!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
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Old Dec 7, 2014 | 07:28 PM
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I'll hopefull be going rotated on a GT35r within the year or so. So somewhere North of 600.

With regards to weight, the target is under 1000KG.
This guy runs at 750kg

https://www.facebook.com/mikee.singh

I'm not sure if there's any info on his page though for ideas.
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Mikee weighs about the same as me, about 70KG. No point having a light car, if you're a heavy ******.
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Old Dec 7, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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I can't imagine what acceleration feels like in a 750kg Impreza, must be like riding the Rita ride on crack.
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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They are claiming this is the worlds fastest "stock STI turbo" car

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Old Dec 11, 2014 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
he didnt build it he bought it like that and its 260,350,430 bhp


wibble wibble........
TBH he built it to 666bhp then dropped a stock STI turbo in to see what kind of power a stock Turbo can make with an impressive list of supporting mods.

Something I'd like to see done with the stock TD04. 310bhp is the highest I've found a Scooby to make so far with it on.

I bet it'd feel like being shot out of a cannon past 310.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
TBH he built it to 666bhp then dropped a stock STI turbo in to see what kind of power a stock Turbo can make with an impressive list of supporting mods.

Something I'd like to see done with the stock TD04. 310bhp is the highest I've found a Scooby to make so far with it on.

I bet it'd feel like being shot out of a cannon past 310.
no he didnt some bloke on a forum said he bought it already like that, its 260,350,430,666 bhp.

i know this as i spoke to him at santa pod once
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 09:37 AM
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fat-thomas after he took his rear spoiler off to beat his 12.8 with 430bhp.


STI = Fail of a car.
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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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13.5secs - must be stock power or yet again a bad STI driver, lol.


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Old Dec 12, 2014 | 09:49 AM
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STI running 14.3 - I thought you said stock STI's ran 13's tom? (and WRX's 14's)

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This guy runs at 750kg

https://www.facebook.com/mikee.singh

I'm not sure if there's any info on his page though for ideas.
Hi Matt

my car is 882kg (950kg with me in car) and made 690bhp last time on dyno
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Originally Posted by cookstar
Come on then guys, how much grunt would be required to get 9.99?

In a stripped out classic on slicks.
i ran 9.91 in clinics time attack car a few years back, 2.35 with gt30 billet, was running 570bhp / 600ft lb and weighed arround 1150kg with me in car

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STI running 14.3 - I thought you said stock STI's ran 13's tom? (and WRX's 14's)

DRAG RACE Dodge Challenger SRT8 392 vs Subaru WRX STI ( 2014 ) - YouTube
thats a a wrx that some one with sti envy has plonked a rear spoiler on the back.

sti hasnt got fog lights
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I forgot, only the WRX can be upgraded.





I'm getting tired of you labeling WRX's as the leisurely STI's.

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I forgot, only the WRX can be upgraded.





I'm getting tired of you labeling WRX's as the leisurely STI's.
thats a wrx he bought it like that someone on here told me
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You mean they are WRX's. I posed two pics of floglight equipped US STI's.

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And this STI? Was also bought as a WRX?

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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
You mean they are WRX's. I posed two pics of floglight equipped US STI's.



And this STI? Was also bought as a WRX?
yes i spoke to the owner at pod, fawor said he bought it like that
its 260,350.430 bhp
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
yes i spoke to the owner at pod, fawor said he bought it like that
its 260,350.430 bhp

I bet it pulls well in 3rd onwards, but we all know an STI needs 256bhp to get a good launch.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
I bet it pulls well in 3rd onwards, but we all know an STI needs 256bhp to get a good launch.
correct this would explain my 12.8 at 260 bhp with a passenger you watched
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Originally Posted by mikeesingh
i ran 9.91 in clinics time attack car a few years back, 2.35 with gt30 billet, was running 570bhp / 600ft lb and weighed arround 1150kg with me in car

Scoobyclinic Impreza 9 second 1/4 Mile with GT30 Billet *incar* - YouTube

So a rotated gt35 on my 2.1 might give me a fighting chance.
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
correct this would explain my 12.8 at 260 bhp with a passenger you watched
I thought you only got 1 time? So now you ran a 12.8 with 256bhp then 265bhp (officially at 430bhp as confirmed by your friend and what you say is needed to get into the 12's) and now 260bhp? Is the perfect launch on an STI so hard to perfect? On a WRX you can just launch at different rpms to control traction.

I feel a great sense of accomplishment knowing all the WRX owners reading this thread now know that they have the better version by a long long way.

Cheaper to buy
Faster to 60
Faster to 100 at similar power levels
Faster 1/4 mile at 350hp even if STI has up to 20% more power.
Less transmission losses and rotational mass (lighter gearbox, clutch & brake disks)
More subtle interior
Far better MPG
Less drag
Less weight
Cheaper to insure
Cheaper to fix
Cheaper to maintain
Doesn't need forged internals to run 11 second drag runs.
Easier to drive at increased power levels (STI drivers get more spin and hit the limiter)

After these two STI crushing threads...

https://www.scoobynet.com/projects-4...l#post11533974

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...f-v-power.html

...WRX owners no longer have to suffer comments at the hands of STI fanboys such as "You have STI envy," "You have the poverty Spec car," "Should have got an STI" or "You need a 6 speed box."

A fairly stock 360/350 WRX can match the STI's at power levels that mean nearly all its STI parts are redundant.

Sure the WRX maybe comprised when going past 350lbft but:

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
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I thought you only got 1 time? So now you ran a 12.8 with 256bhp then 265bhp (officially at 430bhp as confirmed by your friend and what you say is needed to get into the 12's) and now 260bhp? Is the perfect launch on an STI so hard to perfect? On a WRX you can just launch at different rpms to control traction.

I feel a great sense of accomplishment knowing all the WRX owners reading this thread now know that they have the better version by a long long way.

Cheaper to buy
Faster to 60
Faster to 100 at similar power levels
Faster 1/4 mile at 350hp even if STI has up to 20% more power.
Less transmission losses and rotational mass (lighter gearbox, clutch & brake disks)
More subtle interior
Far better MPG
Less drag
Less weight
Cheaper to insure
Cheaper to fix
Cheaper to maintain
Doesn't need forged internals to run 11 second drag runs.
Easier to drive at increased power levels (STI drivers get more spin and hit the limiter)

After these two STI crushing threads...

https://www.scoobynet.com/projects-4...l#post11533974

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...f-v-power.html

...WRX owners no longer have to suffer comments at the hands of STI fanboys such as "You have STI envy," "You have the poverty Spec car," "Should have got an STI" or "You need a 6 speed box."

A fairly stock 360/350 WRX can match the STI's at power levels that mean nearly all its STI parts are redundant.

Sure the WRX maybe comprised when going past 350lbft but:

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long.
i love the way you spend so long on your sti envy research.
12.8 at 260 bhp sorry if this ruins your wrx drag rubbish but hey ho the sti is the performance premium model for a reason

the key word in all that rubbish above is cheaper

and ill say it one more time 12.8 at 260 bhp!!!!!

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The key point though for all considering a usable fast road Impreza - The WRX can accelerate at speeds that an STI would need forged internals, fuel pressure regulator, headers, FMIC, large aftermarket turbo, cone filter, uprated clutch and large injectors to match.
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The key point though for all considering a usable fast road Impreza - The WRX can accelerate at speeds that an STI would need forged internals, fuel pressure regulator, headers, FMIC, large aftermarket turbo, cone filter, uprated clutch and large injectors to match.
12.8 as it left the factory..............says it all really
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12.8 as it left the factory..............says it all really
The irony of running 12.8 in a traction helping full weight STI with passenger and boot full of bits is that to do 12.5 and beat a notorious WRX time we all know about will mean a big step up in power and that means start line traction issues.

I put it to you thomas that going from around 256/260/265 to over 300bhp will in fact make it more difficult to improve on the 12.8 thus enabling the WRX to keep it's "Faster Car" tag.
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Originally Posted by mikeesingh
Hi Matt

my car is 882kg (950kg with me in car) and made 690bhp last time on dyno
Damn, Mikee! You're lighter than me!

882KG car is bloody light!
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
The key point though for all considering a usable fast road Impreza - The WRX can accelerate at speeds that an STI would need forged internals, fuel pressure regulator, headers, FMIC, large aftermarket turbo, cone filter, uprated clutch and large injectors to match.
Utter tosh, Matt.

Newage STI, 2.0L variant, is good for 400, with just a turbo swap.

Newage WRX, with it's poxy TD04, need most of the stuff you listed.
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