NOW we hear the Muslim voice.....
06 October 2014, 01:13 PM
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Take it whatever way you like, but that's the last thing I meant. You are wrong and can't handle it as usual so now you write any old nonsense to try and make yourself look like less of an idiot.
Your basic claim was that the British public were behind the Afghanistan 'war'. They weren't. Deal with it!
PS It's not about me fighting anyone's battles, it's about you posting like your opinion is somehow fact! For the record I don't support alcazar's opinion on the original post whatsoever.
Your basic claim was that the British public were behind the Afghanistan 'war'. They weren't. Deal with it!
PS It's not about me fighting anyone's battles, it's about you posting like your opinion is somehow fact! For the record I don't support alcazar's opinion on the original post whatsoever.
Just look at any of the polling from 2001, there was very strong support for UK involvement. Between 65-70% in favour between 20-25% opposed, with 'don't knows' making up the rest
Now what was it you were saying about confusing facts with opinions?
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06 October 2014, 03:15 PM
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LOL at Martin trying to wriggle out of being wrong.
20,000 is a HELL of a lot of people. More than 15 TIMES the population of where I am now.
A few at Greenham common is a demonstration, 20,000 is "mass"...ask the cops.
And I don't need anyone to fight my battles against you.
"No I don't, No I won't, No I haven't"...squawk......
All I need is to be right, and you wrong...and you either cry or insult me.
20,000 is a HELL of a lot of people. More than 15 TIMES the population of where I am now.
A few at Greenham common is a demonstration, 20,000 is "mass"...ask the cops.
And I don't need anyone to fight my battles against you.
"No I don't, No I won't, No I haven't"...squawk......
All I need is to be right, and you wrong...and you either cry or insult me.
06 October 2014, 03:51 PM
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That is totally incorrect.
Just look at any of the polling from 2001, there was very strong support for UK involvement. Between 65-70% in favour between 20-25% opposed, with 'don't knows' making up the rest
Now what was it you were saying about confusing facts with opinions?
Just look at any of the polling from 2001, there was very strong support for UK involvement. Between 65-70% in favour between 20-25% opposed, with 'don't knows' making up the rest
Now what was it you were saying about confusing facts with opinions?
Either way it's hardly an unequivocal backing by the public.
06 October 2014, 03:58 PM
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...in France, at least.
We have waited to hear them condemn the violence, the attacks, the kidnapping and the killings.
Finally, they have found their voice....
Have they condemned ANY of the above?
Nope, they have bemoaned the radicalistaion of their FEMALE children...and that the French government hasn't done enough to get them back...while they, themselves parade around in headscarves etc etc.
And today, a local imam was annoyed that people are speaking out against Islam, since "It's not all their fault, most Muslims are great etc etc....."
NOT A WORD against any of the violence.
You couldn't make it up, could you? I don't think they have a clue of the hate they are facing....
In fact, I'd say that quite a few westerners and non-Muslims now hate them as much as they seem to hate us infidels.
There's going to be an almighty collision soon.
We have waited to hear them condemn the violence, the attacks, the kidnapping and the killings.
Finally, they have found their voice....
Have they condemned ANY of the above?
Nope, they have bemoaned the radicalistaion of their FEMALE children...and that the French government hasn't done enough to get them back...while they, themselves parade around in headscarves etc etc.
And today, a local imam was annoyed that people are speaking out against Islam, since "It's not all their fault, most Muslims are great etc etc....."
NOT A WORD against any of the violence.
You couldn't make it up, could you? I don't think they have a clue of the hate they are facing....
In fact, I'd say that quite a few westerners and non-Muslims now hate them as much as they seem to hate us infidels.
There's going to be an almighty collision soon.
And take your bull **** with you!
Oh and when this 'almighty' collision occurs don't forget to bring your keyboard with you.
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06 October 2014, 04:22 PM
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A snake like you is not capable of reasoning nor are you worthy of debate.
However in answer to your question. Nope, every single Muslim on Snet is a closet ISIS supporter and we secretly fund them via paypal and talk to them using 'puffinparty'.
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06 October 2014, 04:35 PM
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Afternoon, Shaid, I trust you're well. So, are you for or against the restoration of the Caliphate?
06 October 2014, 04:42 PM
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Even when you are flat wrong, you're right!
Tell you what don't argue with me, argue with the numbers...
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchp...ends-2001.aspx
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06 October 2014, 04:56 PM
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I hate all religions, those Mussies don't preferential treatment from me! 
Billy Connolly sums up religion nicely!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwoo...ature=youtu.be
You've had a couple of thousand years, youve fcuked it it's over, take your Reformation, your Vatican, your Mecca and **** off!!
Billy Connolly sums up religion nicely!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwoo...ature=youtu.be
You've had a couple of thousand years, youve fcuked it it's over, take your Reformation, your Vatican, your Mecca and **** off!!
Can you honestlyy find any kind of criticism of such good people who are prepared to also sacrifice some of their own advantages to help others who are worse off than themselves?
If you cannot bring yourself to praise such people-what would you suggest instead?
What sort of a person are you anyway?
Les
06 October 2014, 04:59 PM
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LOL at Martin trying to wriggle out of being wrong.
20,000 is a HELL of a lot of people. More than 15 TIMES the population of where I am now.
A few at Greenham common is a demonstration, 20,000 is "mass"...ask the cops.
And I don't need anyone to fight my battles against you.
"No I don't, No I won't, No I haven't"...squawk......
All I need is to be right, and you wrong...and you either cry or insult me.
20,000 is a HELL of a lot of people. More than 15 TIMES the population of where I am now.
A few at Greenham common is a demonstration, 20,000 is "mass"...ask the cops.
And I don't need anyone to fight my battles against you.
"No I don't, No I won't, No I haven't"...squawk......
All I need is to be right, and you wrong...and you either cry or insult me.
There'd of been 20k anti war protesters if the Isle Of Wight was invaded by the French and the government was about to use military action to reclaim it.
You are still trying to equate the demonstrations against Iraq with the ones Afganistan...seriously, is that what you really mean???
Your logic isn't even sound. Clearly if the Afgan war was so unpopular there'd of been 100s thousand of protesters, not 20,000?
06 October 2014, 05:00 PM
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Can you see anything wrong with a religion which encourages its followers to act in an unselfish manner and to do all that they can to help those who are poorly placed because of their circumstances and often actually own nothing?
Can you honestlyy find any kind of criticism of such good people who are prepared to also sacrifice some of their own advantages to help others who are worse off than themselves?
If you cannot bring yourself to praise such people-what would you suggest instead?
What sort of a person are you anyway?
Les
Can you honestlyy find any kind of criticism of such good people who are prepared to also sacrifice some of their own advantages to help others who are worse off than themselves?
If you cannot bring yourself to praise such people-what would you suggest instead?
What sort of a person are you anyway?
Les
And BLIMEY....IT'S LESLIE
06 October 2014, 05:13 PM
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I give up.
Even when you are flat wrong, you're right!
Tell you what don't argue with me, argue with the numbers...
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchp...ends-2001.aspx
Even when you are flat wrong, you're right!
Tell you what don't argue with me, argue with the numbers...
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchp...ends-2001.aspx
There were others... anyway who cares as it's all history now and hundreds of servicemen have died for nothing which seems to not bother most politicians and many on here for some reason
06 October 2014, 05:14 PM
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Can you post up some others then?
06 October 2014, 05:18 PM
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Why? I remember what I saw at the time. If you want to believe I am a liar and that the Afghan war was a great big success story with huge public backing then crack on, I couldn't care less.
I am just glad I don't mix with your sort of public!
I am just glad I don't mix with your sort of public!
06 October 2014, 05:25 PM
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This discussion was about public support in 2001 for the was in Afganistan, there was overwelming support for that action (I remember it well too pally boy)
You cannot support you're argument with any facts..none at all, so you've just done what you always do... changed tack.
This debate hasn't been about the efficacy of the war, you've added that in to make a point that no one is arguing against.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/o...n.september112
http://www.urban75.com/Action/news144.html
http://www.idcr.org.uk/wp-content/up...0/09/03_11.pdf
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06 October 2014, 07:11 PM
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That's the first I've seen of that, fantastic. There's often a rose amongst thorns.
I have a couple of questions though.
Were the donations purely from Muslim sources?
Although £15k I'm sure will be a great help does it reflect the passion of British Muslims?
I'd be a little more inspired to believe there is true passion if say £1m was raised over a few days, as was seen a few times recently.
06 October 2014, 07:15 PM
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Pot/kettle springs to mind.
That's the first I've seen of that, fantastic. There's often a rose amongst thorns.
I have a couple of questions though.
Were the donations purely from Muslim sources?
Although £15k I'm sure will be a great help does it reflect the passion of British Muslims?
I'd be a little more inspired to believe there is true passion if say £1m was raised over a few days, as was seen a few times recently.
That's the first I've seen of that, fantastic. There's often a rose amongst thorns.
I have a couple of questions though.
Were the donations purely from Muslim sources?
Although £15k I'm sure will be a great help does it reflect the passion of British Muslims?
I'd be a little more inspired to believe there is true passion if say £1m was raised over a few days, as was seen a few times recently.
06 October 2014, 07:59 PM
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Politics and religion, 2 things GUARANTEED to kick up a fuss.
Fukc the politics they are all lying cheating mother *******.
And treat another like you would want to be treated yourself, bring misery to somebody's door and expect it back, quite simple really.
Fukc the politics they are all lying cheating mother *******.
And treat another like you would want to be treated yourself, bring misery to somebody's door and expect it back, quite simple really.
06 October 2014, 08:04 PM
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Seems a lot of hate for muslims on here,just remember not all muslims are barbaric murderers just the same as not all irish are members of the I.R.A ...
06 October 2014, 08:08 PM
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Why stay with the fail?
My father indoctrinated my with his beliefs. Well actually what he did was take me to a game at the Valley when I was 6 and since then I've been a loyal supporter. If other Chalton fans acted like crazy fools and started being intolerant of women and randomly beheading people including those collecting for charity, then the chances that I would stop supporting The Addicks would be quite large. I don't want to hang around with the fail.
Easy isn't it?
Easy isn't it?
06 October 2014, 08:12 PM
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06 October 2014, 08:18 PM
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My father indoctrinated my with his beliefs. Well actually what he did was take me to a game at the Valley when I was 6 and since then I've been a loyal supporter. If other Chalton fans acted like crazy fools and started being intolerant of women and randomly beheading people including those collecting for charity, then the chances that I would stop supporting The Addicks would be quite large. I don't want to hang around with the fail.
Easy isn't it?
Easy isn't it?
06 October 2014, 09:20 PM
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Interestingly that tool anjem Chaudhry believes in exactly the same thing
when questioned by a BBC reporter
He said exactly those words
Same coin different sides
when questioned by a BBC reporter
He said exactly those words
Same coin different sides
06 October 2014, 09:36 PM
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Choudary believes in the teachings of Mohammad, I believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. If you think and feel these are equivalent then I recommend you do some further reading, Hodgy.