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Old 11 October 2014, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Xline
Drama queen?
I wanted to put find my iphone on a 3gs. That's all.
The only thing stopping you is you. That's what's bloody hilarious.

I don't think I've ever met an Apple user that WON'T use Windows, I use Windows when I have to, I generally come on here after I've accomplished my task and remind everyone how **** it is, but I use it and I get the job done. Windows/Android users that WON'T use anything Apple are everywhere, it's the biggest joke in Computing.
Old 11 October 2014, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Xline
What does Windows have to do with anything? It's my phone, not my PC. The two things are not connected. I don't have to upgrade my kettle to cook some eggs in the microwave.
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha. You have two options. Don't run Find my iPhone or Try to install it using iTunes, seriously, that's it. Stop being angry, pick one and move along.
Old 11 October 2014, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Xline
What part of an operating system is hardware?
And I want an older/previous version, but I can't.
I never said it was. What I said was your iPhone maybe unable to run ios8 because the hardware isn't up to it. So in a round about way it's a hardware issue.

As for downloading the older version, I've just downloaded iBooks from the app store onto an iPad running iOS 5. When I clicked download I was given the option to download the last compatible version as the current version isn't compatible with that device. So it can be done and it's dead easy.
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Originally Posted by Xline
Thanks for the suggestion ... but I've failed on point 1.

I won't install iTunes ... not a chance am I putting any of that **** anywhere near my PC

I've got a phone that can use a wireless connection to my router if it needs to. It has no business or need to go anywhere even close to my computer.
*tinfoil hat.
Out of curiosity, why won't you install iTunes, if only to use it for this one simple thing? I'm not saying you have to then use it for anything else.

Yes, you have a phone you can connect to WiFi, but as I explained, in detail, for this particular situation, if it works that is, you *need* to use iTunes on a computer. In addition, sometimes it is actually a good thing to have the phone connected up, full backups being one reason (iCloud backup does not back up absolutely everything).
Old 12 October 2014, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BLU
Anyone? - My question appears to have swallowed up with all the bullsh*t flying around

*edit* genuine question. I'm no Apple fanboi nor do I want an Android device as I like the way the Apple phone works! Just so you are clear
Sorry if it's been answered, not wading through the crap-ton of stupid posts from the usual and, seemingly new, trolls to find out.

I'd hold off 8.0.2, simply because 8.1 is likely to appear within the next week (event on 16th, and seems that some places are gearing up for a go-live of Apple Pay on the 18th, and it's going to be 8.1 that has Apple Pay enabled), just saves doing two updates.

One hopes 8.1 will also address the space requirement issue which seems to be one of the two reasons people are holding off upgrading to 8.x

From memory, 8.1 fixes a bluetooth issue in 8.0.x, will introduce Apple Pay, and there are a couple of other fixes, that I cannot recall right now (not actually read the dev notes for 8.1, nor installed the beta versions, way to much going on right now!)
Old 12 October 2014, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
I never said it was. What I said was your iPhone maybe unable to run ios8 because the hardware isn't up to it. So in a round about way it's a hardware issue.

As for downloading the older version, I've just downloaded iBooks from the app store onto an iPad running iOS 5. When I clicked download I was given the option to download the last compatible version as the current version isn't compatible with that device. So it can be done and it's dead easy.
As said in my post the reason you can do that is because you must already have had iBooks downloaded / added to an Apple ID previously, unless Apple is doing something special for it's own apps, but in that case, Find my iPhone would be working, so I doubt it's that.

If you don't already have the app in your purchase history then you HAVE to use the workaround I suggested, there isn't as far as I'm aware, ANY other way to get a previous version of the app via the App Store.

If you were able to, you could be sneaky and use an enterprise account to sign an old version of the app and host the .ipa file somewhere and point people at that. Enterprise signing basically removes the 100 device limit that applies in a normal development environment. However, I suspect Apple would take a dim view of this and if you have a live app on the store, I could see them revoking your dev account, thus no apps any more, and good luck trying to get things reinstated.
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Originally Posted by Xline
Yes, that's correct. I won't install their software on my PC so that I can install their software on my Phone.


Yes I could, but I won't ... because I won't install their software on my PC. Imagine if I didn't even have a PC?
I should not bite, but **** it.

Answer provided, YOU don't want to install something that could resolve your problem because you're being pig headed about it for some reason. Guess what, tough bloody luck, no Find my iPhone for you. Moan all you want about it and how **** iTunes and Apple are, and how you should be able to do what you want, blah, blah, blah.

I am sick and ******* tired of giving over my time to provide advice and then practically having it thrown back in my face. I really do wonder why I still bother to respond on here when you get crap like this. More fool me for trying to help out I suppose.
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You could have just read the thread, saved a lot of wasted typing.
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Originally Posted by Xline
Phone / PC. Different things. I do not *need* to, and will not. install iTunes on my PC to operate or manage a f*cking phone. It's a phone. A PHONE god damnit. Can you imagine buying a car but you NEED to have the manufacture software installed on your computer and you have to connect them up every so often otherwise you can't open the boot or turn the headlights on or suddenly the Aircon won't work anymore because there's a new ECU upgrade?
Do yourself a favour and go buy an old Nokia, something like a 3210 sounds right up your street. This whole smart phone thing doesn't seem to be fi you.
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This thread is brilliant .
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Originally Posted by JackClark
You could have just read the thread, saved a lot of wasted typing.
Is that aimed in my direction?
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Originally Posted by Xline
Phone / PC. Different things. I do not *need* to, and will not. install iTunes on my PC to operate or manage a f*cking phone. It's a phone. A PHONE god damnit. Can you imagine buying a car but you NEED to have the manufacture software installed on your computer and you have to connect them up every so often otherwise you can't open the boot or turn the headlights on or suddenly the Aircon won't work anymore because there's a new ECU upgrade?
That's how cars work. Open your eyes man.
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Originally Posted by Markus
Is that aimed in my direction?
Yes, you said you couldn't be bothered to read the thread, gave a long, repeat answer, read the thread then gave a long rant. Should have read the thread.
Old 12 October 2014, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Xline
I have neither Subaru, Ford, Renault nor Volkswagen software installed on my PC. ********
That's because you don't want to do something special, like make the horn beep when you turn on the indicators, increase boost or run find my iPhone.
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Originally Posted by Xline
I've got one
Also, the phones aren't very smart if you have to use your PC
Wut??

You should watch this to help understand why having a PC isn't all that bad.

http://youtu.be/qe5h4to5FXo

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Old 12 October 2014, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Markus
Is that aimed in my direction?
He's frankenstien creation,

You can see why he attracts as much acrimony
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Originally Posted by Xline
I've got one
Also, the phones aren't very smart if you have to use your PC
You don't
Old 12 October 2014, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Xline
"special". So installing one of the simplest apps possible is "special"? Right.
Maybe that's the bit you don't understand, installing Find My iPhone on your 3GS, a fine device in its day, is not possible. There are ways you can install it - or maybe not? - but those are Special ways. You should consider a Mac, it does Special things really well.
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It isn't obsolete, you can still make and receive calls and texts, but the OS was end of life when IOS7 was released.

Same thing happens with software, something reaching the EOL does not make people stop using it, just means there will be no more updates to it.

Making a software application backwards compatible is very difficult and most developers tend to only support 1 major version for that reason.
Find My iPhone authors have opted to make the app ios8 only, thats up to them. Each iteration of IOS is a new version of the API. To support iso 6,7 and 8 would be 3 API's thats 3 lots of code to look after, soon becomes a headache.
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Can't for life me see point of "find my phone"
Old 13 October 2014, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Can't for life me see point of "find my phone"
Sat night a friend left her phone in a taxi, someone took it home, police returned it, 49 minutes start to finish. The point of Find my iPhone.
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https://preyproject.com/

Prey is free and only requires ios4.3
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Sat night a friend left her phone in a taxi, someone took it home, police returned it, 49 minutes start to finish. The point of Find my iPhone.
The police returned her phone?

Sorry, I call Bull****
Old 13 October 2014, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
The police returned her phone?

Sorry, I call Bull****
I agree there.
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Originally Posted by dpb
The police returned her phone?

Sorry, I call Bull****
I can assure you that I did not make this up and she is a woman of good standing.

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Cancel the crucifixion and roll out the apologies?
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Wtf does that prove
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Originally Posted by dpb
Wtf does that prove
That jack uses Facebook.
Old 13 October 2014, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Wtf does that prove
It proves that I did not make it up. Me, I'd apologise and move on, you probably want a police report as you're that type of ****.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
That jack uses Facebook.
Extensively, it's a great tool, the iOS app is excellent, pretty sure they do an app for Android now too, must have ported it by now.
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Originally Posted by Xline
I don't want the latest and greatest. I want the old simple find my iphone app ... and I can't. There's no hardware restriction, because you were able to put it on there before. You can't anymore. This is my point.
Am I the only one that fails to see the point of having the find my iphone app on the phone itself?

Unless of course you're using it to keep tabs on someone elses iphone?


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