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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:24 AM
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:28 AM
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Watch aside, what were the new features of the iphone (apart form the screen size)?

My boss has one of those pebble watches for his iphone and loves it, can't get away with it myself. Any advantages over the apple watch to the pebble one?
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
watch is something smart, the phone though sorry to say nothing special about that.

Jack, what's your thoughts on the larger screen as last year you were saying android phones at that time were too big and the current(last) iphone screen was perfect, yet now they have gone bigger and with the 6.5 they have gone away from Steve Jobs ideal?
I've swayed with the market, looked enviously at a Sony screen the other day. I wouldn't go back to a smaller screen that's for sure. The addition of thumb friendly controls will help but I probably won't buy the plus model, saying that the addition of the barometer opens it up to aviation where the screen size would be of benefit. Chances are I'll stay on the S cycle anyhow.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:36 AM
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So, rather than the clearly audible "silent vibrating" (even worse when it's on the table), you'll just start fiddling with your watch, and *THEN* pulling out the phone to actually read the message/mail and/or reply. I can foresee the frowning extended to watch fiddling very quickly indeed.
No the call/email/message is on the watch, no need to pull out the phone.

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Again, without having read any blurb, I assume it's taking your pulse and detecting motion? Firstly I find this quite scary as it'll likely be broadcasting this data, or it could be hacked somehow, and secondly is it doing any more than a freebie pedometer?
Does a good bit more than a pedometer, but I guess it depends what you want. As for broadcasting data it'll be no more or less secure than any other portable device.

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Fair point, but I am also interested to see the public reaction to the likes of the google glass thing. I saw someone in the street a few weeks back wearing one. I actually hid from his view.
I think it will take people a good while to adjust to Google Glass, but I would love to try it and see what it can do and is really like. Although I do feel it, like several of Google's products, is a bit too intrusive.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:45 AM
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So I take it the phones physical shape and appearance remains the same but just bigger? No curved shape like all the hype suggested a year ago??
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 03:48 AM
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I lot of people just don't wear watches, me included
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 07:39 AM
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Okay I need to replace my ip5 - what does the 6 (I'd have the smaller one) actually offer over it?

Bigger screen - no good to me as I like phones to fit in a pocket.
Faster by 25% - errmm, wow…
Longer battery life - but how long after a year of having it?

Will it pack up like my iP5 has (camera is now turd, Aux port doesn't work, drops calls, doesn't ring when in reception, act).

And the watch - I've just had my Garmin 910xt stolen; is the health stuff good enough to replace it (it did swimming, running, cycling)? Not worried about apps on my wrist.

I will buy one if it's worth it but I'm looking t £630ish for just the phone which is a lot of cash.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Markus

Short version is that it's not *just* a watch. It's a combination of things, a watch, a fitness device (think fitbit), it's a notification tool, it's a payment device (wave it in front of a contact-less terminal to pay for things), and it's extensible and customizable, both with what comes on it, and with whatever developers can think to add to it (well, kind of, you don't install apps on it per-se, it seems to be based on the new iOS 8 "app extensions" system)
But you have sort of described a very small smartphone, unless I am missing something

And you have to charge it everyday it seems

Or have I missed something
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 07:56 AM
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No the call/email/message is on the watch, no need to pull out the phone.

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Doesn't Siri do this stuff too
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 08:05 AM
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how exactly does the watch payment thing work? Does your phone bill get charged or is your watch linked to you bank account? Do you still need to enter a PIN for the transaction to work?
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 08:08 AM
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More bollox that we don't need.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 08:45 AM
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Apparently you can let someone know what you're feeling about them by drawing a picture of them on the phone

It's all a bit soppy isn't it?

I'm sure they'll shift them by the millions

- you have to have your iphone. , in your pocket, for anything at all useful. !!!
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I enjoy new technology, you love Strictly Come Dancing, we all have our quirks.

I also enjoy new technology, but yes I do love Strictly Come Dancing. Who wouldn't enjoy a program featuring attractive, fit, and scantily clad young women. Unless you're gay of course
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 09:14 AM
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I wonder if Samsung will sue Apple for copying the look of their phones?
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 09:37 AM
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As long as Watch is waterproof, I'll likely get one but need to be convinced on the 6/6+ over a 5 in terms of size. I'm not a man-bag type of guy so that is important, as I like to travel light. Hopefully the 5S will come down in price...
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I also enjoy new technology, but yes I do love Strictly Come Dancing. Who wouldn't enjoy a program featuring attractive, fit, and scantily clad young women. Unless you're gay of course
Yeah because none of those male dancers are gay, you love it.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
As long as Watch is waterproof, I'll likely get one but need to be convinced on the 6/6+ over a 5 in terms of size. I'm not a man-bag type of guy so that is important, as I like to travel light. Hopefully the 5S will come down in price...
I'm hoping at least the Sport one will be sporty enough to go swimming and if that one is the others should be too.

Just read this on a tech blog

"First, the Watch isn't waterproof -- just water-resistant. Exact ratings are still unknown, but these watches clearly aren't something you want to be wearing when pushed into a pool or jumping into the ocean; they should withstand splashing, snow and other minimal exposure to this particular element, but since the mic and speakers aren't protected, do so at your own risk."

Not a deal breaker for me and could change before launch.

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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Tbh no idea, and i think thats the problem with apple. New apple product gets mega hyped, terms like 'game changer' keep getting branded around, yet when they get released they don't live up to it.

As said im pretty anti apple, but if they came out with something that did bring in something revolutionary i'd give them their due. But over hyping something thast a bit better polished than the competition but extensivley the same just doesn't live up to that hype.
Yeah, look at all that hype over the iPhone and the iPad, the last two innovations from Apple, totally didn't catch on.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 10:06 AM
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I will likely now go back to Apple as at least they now have a screen that I consider to be a decent size, whether it will be a 6 or 6 Plus I don't know, I think I would have to see both but I think the 6 Plus is just too big for me unless I want to look like Dom Joly.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 10:10 AM
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I doubt they'll be waterproofing it at this late stage, that's a lot of work
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Who is to say it's not being waterproofed right now? Apple kept very, very quiet about this, and they also tend not to comment on things until they are ready, so if they were working on waterproofing, they wouldn't mention it until they are 100% sure it would work.

It isn't easy, I'll give you that, we just waterproofed our latest device, and it has to be done right, no just squirting silicone in there.

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Hmmm - I can get £160ish for my iP5 so that does help a little.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Yeah, look at all that hype over the iPhone and the iPad, the last two innovations from Apple, totally didn't catch on.
rather different situation, when the iphone came out it was the first of the current style of all phones, i would say that was indeed the fabled 'game changer'. since then the iphone hasn't been anything that special compared to the competition.

As far as ipad, sales aren't growing rapidly, after the intial release increase they are worse Q on Q.

So the iphone is just a revision, and the watch, not sure what to make of it. Comparisons with existing watches arn't very flattering.

All in all apple seem to be struggling to make anything ground breaking
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
rather different situation, when the iphone came out it was the first of the current style of all phones, i would say that was indeed the fabled 'game changer'. since then the iphone hasn't been anything that special compared to the competition.

As far as ipad, sales aren't growing rapidly, after the intial release increase they are worse Q on Q.

So the iphone is just a revision, and the watch, not sure what to make of it. Comparisons with existing watches arn't very flattering.

All in all apple seem to be struggling to make anything ground breaking
Tidgy, with due respect, you have no idea what you're talking about. Nothing ground breaking, have a word.
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I was hoping for a smaller phone, not an even bigger one.

Oh well, holding back on my contract upgrade was a waste of time....
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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I was hoping for a smaller phone, not an even bigger one.

Oh well, holding back on my contract upgrade was a waste of time....
Get a Watch.
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 01:41 PM
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Will probably get a standard 6. My 5 still works fine in fact I would say its not slowed at all since new. All the marketing bollocks aside what do the latest droid do that the average user will make use of? All I ever hear is ooh I can customise my menu's, I have 3d app icons etc. For me the phone synchs with my ipad and does what I need it to and is well built with good aftersales support.

Nothing will be game changing until we move to the next device type like the move from standard mobiles to smart phones. Everything in between is just tweaks. Whether its watches I am not convinced. Many don't like wearing watches, others wear several depending on the occasion. Has anyone seen someone wearing the samsung watch as I haven't?
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
I was hoping for a smaller phone, not an even bigger one.

Oh well, holding back on my contract upgrade was a waste of time....

Yep a big reason I went for the 5 was it's small size. The 6 looks rather big even in smaller form.

Hmmm...
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Good news is that the price of the 5S has dropped a bit, though they seem to have stopped doing the 64Gb? Certainly in the Apple Store
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