Recommend me a clutch for Hawkeye STI
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Different strokes for different folks indeed.
Proof is in the pudding as I say. You say it's not good on a road and drag car, I've been there done that and proven otherwise. Our customers seem to agree:
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got mine from aztec.....difference in weight is unbelievable...
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The engine was quicker to gain speed and there was a sense of reduced initial inertia. Definitely easier to stall, but not to the extent that it affected driveability - you just need to drive it more carefully and apply more forthought. I fitted the one from the Aztec website, not sure if it was alloy/forged etc.
I think the bite point is laible to change on any clutch work, mine did, slightly, but not in a bad way. I went for the flywheel at the same time as it seemed like a good mod that could be done with minimal labour costs as th clutch was coming out anyways. In my opinion it did make the car respond better under accelleration and well worth replacing a worn/less performance oriented part.
Hope this helps.
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Clutch and flywheel from Aztec Performance has been great and still going strong! thanks again, great service!!
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got mine a package from aztec . noticed the difference on the way home from mates garage . a lot crisper throttle responce and revs a lot quicker in each gear as you go up the box . also no judder at all with the anti judder exedy clutch , very smooth changes . apart from the vf35 i picked up off a mate for 50quid its the best money ive spent on the scoob
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Products that work = happy customers.
Proof is in the pudding as I say. You say it's not good on a road and drag car, I've been there done that and proven otherwise. Our customers seem to agree:
Quote:
---Quote (Originally by scatty)---
got mine from aztec.....difference in weight is unbelievable...
---End Quote---
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---Quote (Originally by sprigeteer)---
The engine was quicker to gain speed and there was a sense of reduced initial inertia. Definitely easier to stall, but not to the extent that it affected driveability - you just need to drive it more carefully and apply more forthought. I fitted the one from the Aztec website, not sure if it was alloy/forged etc.
I think the bite point is laible to change on any clutch work, mine did, slightly, but not in a bad way. I went for the flywheel at the same time as it seemed like a good mod that could be done with minimal labour costs as th clutch was coming out anyways. In my opinion it did make the car respond better under accelleration and well worth replacing a worn/less performance oriented part.
Hope this helps.
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---Quote (Originally by Ramsay1602)---
Clutch and flywheel from Aztec Performance has been great and still going strong! thanks again, great service!!
---End Quote---
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---Quote (Originally by madscoob)---
got mine a package from aztec . noticed the difference on the way home from mates garage . a lot crisper throttle responce and revs a lot quicker in each gear as you go up the box . also no judder at all with the anti judder exedy clutch , very smooth changes . apart from the vf35 i picked up off a mate for 50quid its the best money ive spent on the scoob
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Products that work = happy customers.
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Drag racing? I love drag racing and have done lots of it with results like for like surpassing those that build engines.
Instead of just going the big power route look at individual components on the car to see what can be improved, put a combination of the right things together and you can have a car that work. Reducing rotational mass was a key part of that. At the time my basic spec with 340bhp was obtaining the exact same results as a "engineer" with 500bhp+ big build at the time.
Been around 14 years now.
Instead of just going the big power route look at individual components on the car to see what can be improved, put a combination of the right things together and you can have a car that work. Reducing rotational mass was a key part of that. At the time my basic spec with 340bhp was obtaining the exact same results as a "engineer" with 500bhp+ big build at the time.
Been around 14 years now.
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Drag racing? I love drag racing and have done lots of it with results like for like surpassing those that build engines.
Instead of just going the big power route look at individual components on the car to see what can be improved, put a combination of the right things together and you can have a car that work. Reducing rotational mass was a key part of that. At the time my basic spec with 340bhp was obtaining the exact same results as a "engineer" with 500bhp+ big build at the time.
Been around 14 years now.
Instead of just going the big power route look at individual components on the car to see what can be improved, put a combination of the right things together and you can have a car that work. Reducing rotational mass was a key part of that. At the time my basic spec with 340bhp was obtaining the exact same results as a "engineer" with 500bhp+ big build at the time.
Been around 14 years now.
You're saying an Aztec Performance flywheel is worth 150 bhp?
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Not quite sure how you came to that conclusion. An engineers logic would obviously be baffled at the thought of a 500bhp car performing the same as a 340bhp
Going off track now. Old news. I used a lightweight flywheel to very good effect both on road and drag strip with great results (haven't been repeated or beaten to date afaik). This statement was in response to you advising that lightweight flywheels are bad on road cars or drag cars which my customers and I disagree with.
Going off track now. Old news. I used a lightweight flywheel to very good effect both on road and drag strip with great results (haven't been repeated or beaten to date afaik). This statement was in response to you advising that lightweight flywheels are bad on road cars or drag cars which my customers and I disagree with.
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Not quite sure how you came to that conclusion. An engineers logic would obviously be baffled at the thought of a 500bhp car performing the same as a 340bhp
Going off track now. Old news. I used a lightweight flywheel to very good effect both on road and drag strip with great results (haven't been repeated or beaten to date afaik). This statement was in response to you advising that lightweight flywheels are bad on road cars or drag cars which my customers and I disagree with.
Going off track now. Old news. I used a lightweight flywheel to very good effect both on road and drag strip with great results (haven't been repeated or beaten to date afaik). This statement was in response to you advising that lightweight flywheels are bad on road cars or drag cars which my customers and I disagree with.
Of course there is a lot of detail when it comes to getting a good ET, and I'm not surprised that somebody with a 350bhp car could conceivably beat somebody with a 500bhp car, I'm just saying it isn't just down to the bloody flywheel is it?
You appear to have a problem with engine builders in general, attempting to belittle a perfectly reasonable point of view from the off. What's your motive?
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You've baffled me a few times on this thread. I haven't used the word "bad" anywhere. I said I didn't recommend them, certainly not in every case, and I said I thought they could be a disadvantage when drag racing. If anybody was just starting out, not a successful "Drag Queen" such as yourself, they'd find it easier to get a clean getaway with a stock flywheel weight, no question.
Haven't attempted to belittle anyone, least of all a friendly garage on our books that we might normally recommend. Certainly not meant to come across like that.
What you have said just there is far more detailed than saying you don't recommend lightweight flywheels as a blanket statement. Does a heavy flywheel make launching easier for a novice, yes of course. Are there benefits of a lightweight flywheel, yes of course. If we started off on that then I suspect we both would have saved some time.
I suspect you may advise your customers according to your own experience and I too of course do the same.
Good day to you Sir
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It's a YES/NO vote then?
Now, where else have I heard that one this week?
Now, where else have I heard that one this week?
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You lot bitch like teenage schoolgirls ha ha
It's not a question of loosing face on who's right or who's wrong /
All I'm saying is every car/ customer/ application is diff .
Ov course I wouldn't personally stick a lightened flywheel in a stock car , 1 wich is pushing out significant torque I would although I would say this , the harmonics change & you can here it on deceleration .
I also stated that I'm not a fan of the ultra light variants & I still stand by my op post that a pink box is fine & a 9 k wheel won't change his cars dynamics for the worse..
I may be wrong ...
Back to back testing ( right here right now on sub 400 car ) would be the only way to prove your right tho Alan
As for my own car I fitted 1 3-4 k lighter than stock & all is well
That's about it lol
It's not a question of loosing face on who's right or who's wrong /
All I'm saying is every car/ customer/ application is diff .
Ov course I wouldn't personally stick a lightened flywheel in a stock car , 1 wich is pushing out significant torque I would although I would say this , the harmonics change & you can here it on deceleration .
I also stated that I'm not a fan of the ultra light variants & I still stand by my op post that a pink box is fine & a 9 k wheel won't change his cars dynamics for the worse..
I may be wrong ...
Back to back testing ( right here right now on sub 400 car ) would be the only way to prove your right tho Alan
As for my own car I fitted 1 3-4 k lighter than stock & all is well
That's about it lol
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