hodgy0_2

Thanks TMX will tyy the MAF cleaner

I have already tried the cillit Bang oven cleaner trick on the turbo, no real difference TBH

Its fine really, I just don't often overtake up a steep hill lol

chocolate_o_brian

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This is my thinking. I've had my 6 year old 330D coupe for about 2 months now and it's been superb in fairness. I'm just sorting an extended warranty out on it (I know, they're useless - but I have someone who knows how to word claims etc. who is in the right 'position' shall we say), and after that year is up I'll be popping to an indie specialist for the DPF to be cut out and welded up as well as the EGR blanked. Maybe time for a cheeky remap too

I do a few short (2-3 mile) journeys to work every week but I'll give it a blast at 80mph in 4th/5th every so often on the motorway if I don't get chance to do a good run in it.

TMX

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I can't stand diesels myself only pro is usually the towing ability. MPG's always lower than stated.... and repair costs that are extra due to emissions stuff.

Longer term the Fozzy's been cheaper to run and more fun, even with higher road tax and 25MPG vs the Honda's cheaper tax and ~46MPG

Good luck

hodgy0_2

True, towing is very good, and both my diesels have towbars and are used for towing - my Toyota Landcruiser is simply epic you really can't tell, even when towing my boats etc

Anyway what I do like about diesels is the fact that they are far less susceptible to the damp and have no starting/combust electronics (coil, spark plugs etc etc) and I in my experience give less "poor running" issues

TMX

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How do you find the LandCruiser day to day ? Hve you had any issues with it ? I was considering one of those not so long ago............Was looking at a 120 Series 2003+ In petrol V6. Love the idea of an Amazon but just couldn't stomach the fuel bill, even with the 4.2

hodgy0_2

Well regular posters will know I rate the Landcruiser (4.2 Amazon) really highly

Simply the best car I have ever owned, quite often I have driven it, fully loaded with 7 and even 8 people (it has 8 seatbelts) with all luggage and ski/snowboarding equipment across Europe easily and without drama - it will demolish 700 miles in a single sitting

I can tow my boat complete with dinghy on top and not feel a thing

They make every other 4x4 (apart from the Merc G Wagon) look like a toy, the size of the rear diff looks like it should be on a truck

I can lock both the centre and rear diffs so that I simply need one rear wheel to have traction and I will get forward motion

The only issue has been the torque converter, a common problem, the truck still drove fine (160k) but I had it replaced - now on 212k and I fully expect it to do over 400k

All the above is why they are like rocking horse **** second hand and still command really strong money ( I suspect mine has lost less than 3k in depreciation the last 100k miles)

Fuel economy not great obviously but we are often driving it 7 people in, so actually quite cheap on a per person cost

All in all an awesome car, stick a couple of .50 call machine guns on the roof and you get a pretty good fighting vehicle too, which is handy in the middle east at the mo

And as they say in Australia, " if you wanna go to the outback, take a Landover, if you wanna come back take a Toyota Landcruiser"

People whose lives depend on the reliability of their vehicle choose the Landcruiser (which is important in Cambridgeshire)

Ps it is the wife's car and she loves it too

Matteeboy

Hodgy; wife's grandparents still have theirs; bought new on a 54 plate. Still feels quite luxurious, never breaks down, definitely built like a truck. Later versions look a bit tacky to me.

Oh they've also just changed their Defender for a new (14 plate) one; dead basic with steels, light on options. IMO that's the only way to do it. Our "top spec" 110 XS was a PITA.

So if we need a good 4x4, we have a choice of two!

chocolate_o_brian

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Hodgy, I'm just scouring Autotrader for similar 4x4's to yours. Wondered what plate yours was on? Assume the 4.2TD.

Ta muchly.

hodgy0_2

Yeah I think the new ones look a bit tacky, the 100 series (your wifes grandparents and mine) is certainly no "looker" but I think it looks pretty imposing and has a pretty rugged stance on the road


And I am sure the opposition do drive better on the road - but i love it every time I get in and drive it, it has the feeling that you could be setting off at the edge of the Gobi desert and it would drive straight through it, in the same way it goes to Tesco's lol

And so easy to work on - in fact this weekend I got my grease gun out and greased the entire drivetrain, v satisfying

Matteeboy

I don't know how good they are but the 70 series really do look great. I want one!

hodgy0_2

They are all good tbh

This the really cool one



My interior - looks pretty good I think fort a 15 year old car

Matteeboy

Yep, that's the one. We stayed at an awesome campsite in Kaikoura, South NZ; the owner showed us his very own mountain in his 70 series LC; we loved it!

Only thing I'm not sure about is the LC paint; the grandparents in law's one is very well looked after but the paint is pretty scruffy. Japs seem to favour soft paint.

Fat Boy

85k on a 2.0 tdi renault espace here. Great car and no issues, but I do give it a high speed blast every few weeks to clean everything out.

maff125

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330d sport here, bought with 120,000 nearly five years ago, then mapped to 500nm. Been totally trouble free burns no castrol edge and now on 192,000 averaging 44mpg.

I love my diesels for a daily,(gotta be a straight six though) and they have stronger internals as they are a compression engine so happily do big miles:-) I would wince driving a petrol car with 150,000+ miles on it

Matteeboy

Well the £53k van had a new EGR valve fitted. Picked it up today. It failed after 15 miles...

It's being looked at again...

ARGGGGHHHHHH!!!

I will never ever buy a four cylinder diesel again (I'd happily buy a 5/6/8 pot one though if it was the right type). They are quite simply




****.

dpb

I reckon you'll be forking out for a clutch sooner rather than later.

Iv seen of Mercedes just run in at 150k.!

maff125

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30% road 70% motorway at 68mph with cruise on looks after the clutch and also I'm approaching 40, but I wouldn't be surprised if the clutch did let go after 3 years of 370lbft and to be fair the occasional abuse

davyboy

After 06 they are much better.

My Vito is 07, no rust, 160k miles! mid 40s MPG....in fact I got 53 out of it coming home from work.

Matteeboy

Sounds good. Plus THIS is coming to the UK soon…



Sadly I don't think they'll do one with the 6 pot diesel they use in their top end vans.

davyboy

Mid 40s might be pushing it...on a run yes.

I usually get 40mpg per tank.

Although 27 when towing the Caravan!

I like the look of the camper...I think you can get those roofs added for about 1800.

Matteeboy

You can but aftermarket stuff is always inferior. The above is a proper conversion done by Westfalia (as is the California except that's done in their Wolfsburg factory) - just means everything looks SO much more coherent and higher quality.

TBH I'm not too worried about mpg - as long as I get 300 from a tank (as I do in the M135i), I'm happy. I'd rather get worse mpg but NOT have a load of emissions reducing sh1te ruin the engine.

The Cali is STILL at the dealers (for the third time) with no update yet…

The mk7 Golf we have for now is fine but definitely "white goods" - as soulful and interesting as a food blender.

hodgy0_2

fuel costs (mpg) for those usually goes on the "holiday" budget -- so mpg is pretty irrelevant imo

ditchmyster

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I'd sell my left nut for one of these but sadly they are so hard to find.

My Isuzu trooper 3.1td drives like a car, I was forced to take it for a drive by the owner of my local 4x4 centre, (think he was sick of the sight of me) I came back after 5 mins and bought it.

P.s I drove just about every 4x4 he had in for the previous 6 months and budget was not an issue.

daveyj

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Not too keen on the modern stuff but was very impressed with the robustness of my 200TDI Discovery. Ran it on neat, used (unprocessed) Veg Oil in the summer. Needed fuel filter changes but that was all. Thinned the mixture in the winter but it was genuine cheap as chips (yes I did it) motoring. 2nd to that my Pug 306 Dturbo, which although very agricultural, could eek 620-630 miles from 50lites on a run if driven on longer journeys. I've only had a Smart car touch either of those for economy, but that was effectively ornamental in the winter whereas the Disco made winter and towing a joy and Pug was actually a decent laugh if you pressed on. Said Disco is still going strong in Stroud on 176kmiles and still being run on veg oil!

Haven't looked at anything newer as I think the engines just became bothersome after mechanical injection systems were superseded. I've genuinely lost count of hearing horror stories of fuel pump replacements at nearly £2k on newer stuff, blown turbos, yada yada yada!

Stuck with reliable Jap petrol since!

dpb

Do you get wooft of 'chip shop' on start up

daveyj

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Perma-Chip Shop smell tbh but zero trips to the fuel station in the summer and ran a 70/30 Diesel/Veg Oil blend in the winter. Was great for tailgaters too, 5th gear boot it, turbo comes on boost and woooooof veggie oil smoke screen Bond stylee.

RA Dunk

Whats the differences between the newer Vitos and Sprinters regarding Engines, is there much if any difference between them?

Looking to replace the Vito I sold a while back with something else and was wondering about the Sprinter TBH.

Matteeboy

Looks like the French agree...

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30381223

ALi-B

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That article is bollocks...

Its quacks on about oxide of nitrogen. (NO2)...But diesels since the mid 1990's have had NO2 and ozone reduction control, by the form of EGR (accompanied by a throttle to limit inlet air) and a three way catalyst. The only issue arises if its malfunctioning or been removed.


What makes it worse is a modern direct injection pretrol engine, otherwise known as stratified charge injection. These also, if malfuntioning produces LOTS of NO2 and ozone due to their lean burn fueling strategy where fuel is burnt with an excess amount of oxygen (like a diesel).

Indeed the reason why the original lean-burn petrol engine was pretty much banned globally becuase of of its NO2 and ozone production. Direct injection acompanied by lots of emission control (like NOX sensors) has allowed lean-burn to return, just under different branding (like FSi ).

Direct injected petrols will be as troublesome as modern diesels - its just there aren't as many around yet. Indeed I've had more than my fair share of FSi engined VAGs and BMWs with running and emissions issues, infact they are a right headache.

Matteeboy

I have had four 4 pot diesels (we still have one) and countless petrols; the latter have been 45346788744 times more reliable.

Anything strangled with a battery of emissions choking devices like an EGR valve, DPF, the necessity for DMFs and more simply WILL have issues.

Yes there are some issues with some petrols (BMW n54 HPFP issues, troublesome 20i engines, dodgy TFSI units, VANOS trouble, etc etc) but I have ten times more confidence in my n55 engine than any of my diesels. One of which has only just been in for nine WEEKS for a problem they couldn't sort. It was in the end but it hardly inspired confidence.