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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 08:24 PM
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I don't think we've agreed upon a definition of God, Pete.
What's your definition?
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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Occam's razor.
Incredulous.
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Maz
What's your definition?
I had a go on here a few years back, Maz.

https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...&postcount=109

Because if God is a placemarker for the unknown, I know it exists; if God is the Universe, I Know it exists; if God is the source of all life, I know it exists; if God is the Sun, I know it exists; if God is our collective consciousness, I know it exists; if God is the sum of human knowledge, I know it exists; if God is my conscience, I know it exists; if God gave rise to beauty, love, happiness, wisdom and fidelity after 3.8 billion years of evolution, I know it exists and if God is abiogenesis, I know it exists. If God is a bird singing, an act of true altruism, a baby's first breath, Mozart, sunset from Vesuvius, sunrise from Table Mountain, the eyes of a chimpanzee or my Mother's unconditional love, I know God exists. If God is my desire to find truth and my sense of self beyond the atoms that make up my body, I know it exists.

Take each of these things, and a thousand others, and you have my God. If you feel any of the things I've listed do not exist, I'm happy to listen. If you're unhappy with my use of the word God to describe the whole that each of those parts make, then c'est la vie.
Ultimately I don't have the words to describe Him - He's ineffable. God the Father is infinity to infinity, eternity to eternity and the all that is. As a Christian I believe that God was made manifest in Christ Jesus.
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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.Because if God is a placemarker for the unknown, I know it exists; if God is the Universe, I Know it exists; if God is the source of all life, I know it exists; if God is the Sun, I know it exists; if God is our collective consciousness, I know it exists; if God is the sum of human knowledge, I know it exists; if God is my conscience, I know it exists; if God gave rise to beauty, love, happiness, wisdom and fidelity after 3.8 billion years of evolution, I know it exists and if God is abiogenesis, I know it exists. If God is a bird singing, an act of true altruism, a baby's first breath, Mozart, sunset from Vesuvius, sunrise from Table Mountain, the eyes of a chimpanzee or my Mother's unconditional love, I know God exists. If God is my desire to find truth and my sense of self beyond the atoms that make up my body, I know it exists.

Take each of these things, and a thousand others, and you have my God. If you feel any of the things I've listed do not exist, I'm happy to listen. If you're unhappy with my use of the word God to describe the whole that each of those parts make, then c'est la vie.
Basically you believe in "The Force", from Star Wars
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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When something is the Illuminati,Jews,false flags or a top-secret government society that nobody has ever heard of, people refer to these beliefs as a conspiracy theory.
But when the something is God or Allah we refer to the exact same set of beliefs simply as religion.
One set of beliefs is almost plausible and one is not and I'm the one with the tin foil hat lol
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Basically you believe in "The Force", from Star Wars
If it's helpful for you, Hodgy.
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
When something is the Illuminati,Jews,false flags or a top-secret government society that nobody has ever heard of, people refer to these beliefs as a conspiracy theory.
But when the something is God or Allah we refer to the exact same set of beliefs simply as religion.
One set of beliefs is almost plausible and one is not and I'm the one with the tin foil hat lol
Both are fairy stories, created to entrap "believers"

Not to be confused with "Beliebers" they are simply people who believe in the fictional **** called Justin Bieber
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 09:39 PM
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How on Earth have we got from a discussion about police in St Louis to God?
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 09:40 PM
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Or St Lois even
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I had a go on here a few years back, Maz.

https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...&postcount=109



Ultimately I don't have the words to describe Him - He's ineffable. God the Father is infinity to infinity, eternity to eternity and the all that is. As a Christian I believe that God was made manifest in Christ Jesus.
Is religion/God a refuge for your inability to come to terms with life/mortality? The absolute last stop when every other avenue has been exhausted.
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Or St Lois even
Indeed, shame you can't edit your titles!
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Maz
Is religion/God a refuge for your inability to come to terms with life/mortality? The absolute last stop when every other avenue has been exhausted.
No.
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Old Aug 22, 2014 | 11:53 PM
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[QUOTE=stipete75;11496827]
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My argument is more valid than you would like to believe Martin.

America is getting ready for a home turf war.
The DHS has reportedly bought enough ammunition for a 20year war, 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition, some of this purchase order is for hollow-point rounds, forbidden by international law for use in war, this year another 75 million rounds.
Reported by who?

At the height of the Iraq war 6 million rounds were used on average monthly, at that rate it would take 20 years to fire all rounds.
Not to mention DHS now is showing off its acquisition of heavily armored personnel carriers.

Why??

Obama can not personally repeal the 2nd amendment but he can personally squeeze the living hell out of it.
As ludicrous as it may sound, I wouldn't be surprised if there won't be an attempt to repeal the second amendment by executive order. Not directly anyway, but in a roundabout way, maybe by a declaration of martial law or some other "national emergency measure".
You're right it does sound ludicrous
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Old Aug 23, 2014 | 12:31 AM
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It was gods will.
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Old Aug 23, 2014 | 08:46 AM
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Certainly some paranoid people on this thread
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Old Aug 24, 2014 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Certainly some paranoid people on this thread
Who's that aimed at?















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Old Aug 24, 2014 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Certainly some paranoid people on this thread
It's only paranoia if they're not out to get you.
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Old Aug 24, 2014 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Certainly some paranoid people on this thread
Don't be so paranoid.



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Old Aug 24, 2014 | 08:58 PM
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Looked very much like suicide by cop to me.
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