APIDavid

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No problems l'll do that straight away and give you a spelling lesson while I am there.

Cheeky Sod! I pay people to make my coffee and we don't do chocco hobnobs just proper cake.

T5NYW

iTrader: (4)

Surely this day and age a there is a system out there that can effectively monitor the oil pressure. Say at over 2krpm min of 2bar as the standard pump can by the seem generate 0.5bar pumping Fresh Air. FFS

IMHO if the std Low oil pressure switch/warning is "unfit for purpose" then it needs to be removed.

Or is it a case of every car is fitted with one. It doesn't work but but its on there.


Tony

ditchmyster

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I thought the Subaru engine oil light has always been known by the tag "engine fcuked light"

T5NYW

iTrader: (4)

Yes that's true in newage and classics. But on 3rd Generation cars they've replaced the "engine fcuked light" feature with an even more useless "engine not rotating" warning light.

Tony

pacenote

What's wrong with fitting a good old fashioned oil pressure guage somewhere..

Carnut

Here are some of my favourite ones And heres the thread https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...gs-fitted.html

So correct me if I am wrong but you used the car for the track and tracked the car hard, then after modifying the car and letting it run low on oil subaru repaired it on warranty and its subaru that have let the customer down and sold you a **** car?

urban

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What ******* planet are you on?

Its a simple case of another 2.5 STI that was not fit for purpose in the first place, and has shat itself as a result.

Carnut

And what purpose is that, a track car?

Driving a blob sti hard on a track at speeds of 130mph would get criticism off the SN majority.

And I know the 2.5 is a let down but lets get things straight and have all the facts.

I got some criticism for getting something wrong the other week because SN is a open forum that can display info on a Google search and to be honest thats a fair comment. The info on this thread does not give a potential buyer of a MY11 a opportunity to make a informed decision.

fat-thomas

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lol he's off again, the 2.5 has issues that cause failure however driven.
it must be great trying to convince yourself its not going to pop every time you drive it....lol

Carnut

Hey, there he is. I think I am actually starting to like you.

fat-thomas

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I have to admit I quite like you.
the way you try to convince yourself and others the 2.5 is not sh1te despite evidence from owners,engine builders,press articles,numerous threads is hilarious.

next time do research before you buy

f1_fan

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The guy bought a car tuned and built by the motorsport division of a manufacturer that sells its cars on the back of a rallying heritage and drove it on a track at a speed some way less than the stated maximum and yet you think the fact the car failed is no surprise????

Carnut

Now you're putting words in my mouth.

You are reading my post with chris j t goggles on and not taking a open minded approach (hang on am I telling you what you think now)

You have got to stop thinking that I think the 2.5 is a reliable engine, its clear that it has issues but the facts are muddy.

You make a point of the rally heritage as if a sti is supposed to be able to be used as a track car, we could spend all day on this but it is a road car and you know damn well.

Lets go with AMG as we know it's a car close to you're hart, if you or in the case of the press beat one round a track just for the morning it will be left with smoking brakes and lights all over the dash.

As I think about it you will give me some crap about a AMG being a gt car or something to that affect so lets go with the m sport division at BMW, spend a morning on a track with a m5/m3 and there is a good chance that you will have issues, use them as a track car and in time the chances of failures will be high.

mickp

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The facts are not muddy chris j t. Top of the general page plus every Subaru forum you can find will have examples of the facts you are choosing to swerve. Defending Subaru does the enthusiasts no favours.

Keep searching and reading and you will slowly see the light

fat-thomas

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f1_fan

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I'm going to be honest with you here as I know of 5 lads who recently went on a trip to Germany. They took their AMGs (various models) down the autobahns at cruising speeds of well over 150mph and round the Ring for two days and then on to the AMG factory for a tour and then home at full tilt. Not one of the 5 even worried for a moment that the cars would not take it... it never entered their heads and the cars were faultless for the whole trip other than all needing some new tyres probably

Now I am not saying that to say look how good AMGs are, but the mindset is what interests me... they never even thought to worry about their cars... and at the price of them they shouldn't.

Porsche owners are the same. They turn up to the Ring, run hard for 3 days and go home... it's the way it should be.

If Subaru cannot build their top of the range performance model to take some track work then they need to raise their game and their price accordingly or aim at a different market. Maybe this is why the A45 AMG is so much more expensive.

I am truly not having a dig at Subaru per se, they are still the only marque I have owned five of, but at the end of the day their product is currently not up to the job. That actually makes me sad!

dj219957

have to agree.

lordharding

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Summary
2006/7
2.5 engine
That's when the rot set in
Some accountant told engineering to cut costs as yen going through roof and reduced margins

Grumpy engineer went to parts and told them to buy some cheaper components

Parts with a limited budget bought some nice pistons with chocolate flavoured rings
He also bought a job lot for the diesel and some ex display crankshafts For the new state of art best Deisel engine on the market

Fitted and everyone was happy and the villains probably worked for another car manufacturer now

Couple of years later
Pop
Bang
Melt
Rebuilt

Mr warrenty blames customer
Hq backs him up to save loosing face

Custermers have to have engines rebuilt at 4/5/10k
Customers never buy another one
Dealerships give up as sales plummet

Subaru fight back with a new STi with 3year warrenty only

Mmmm

Subaru is knackered in uk
But we still have plenty to talk about on scoobynet

fat-thomas

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I heard Chris jt is going to be Subaru's new p.r. man.

"its not true,honest guv. don't believe all the facts and info".

a kind of chemical Ali for cars.

Carnut

I have looked at every single post of the engine failure sticky at the top of the page I know exactly how many failures there are in that thread do you?

I have also looked into this issue on countless sites and have spent many many hours doing my homework.

BUT I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE 2.5 ENGINES.

Carnut

There has recently been a full recall of all new gt3's world wide because they were catching on fire.

50% or over of A45 AMG s have failed and there has also had to be a recall on all that were sold before a certain date.

plus you say some track work but we are talking about a lot of track work.

fat-thomas

iTrader: (4)

all ready occurred in Australia and law suit underway in u.s.

Carnut

I am going to try this again, I do not think that the 2.5 is a reliable engine relative to lots of others and especially the 2.0.

I do not own one and never have owned one but curiosity has got the better of me and I have latched on to this subject with interest, I challenge anyone to dedicate as much time as I have given to this subject and research it with a unbiased view as I do.

I was aware that posting the information that has sparked these current post was going to get some of the same old comments from the same people but the information on this thread was not complete. The information should be there for people to make a informed decision which requires all the facts and info.

Carnut

I know nothing about the Australia recall but the law suit in the us is a few guys that are trying to take on subaru, if you know different then post the link.

All manufacturers have recalls, thats my point.

Shaun

Why is track use relevant to 2.5ltr failures? If track use is within warranty scope, then it's relevant. Since that use is not covered, it's a moot point.

Carnut

Shaun

So perhaps there is more to this than one would assume.

Having full stats on cars sold in the UK, versus engine claims made, may better inform a better picture. There is (I feel) an element of rhetoric around this whole subject.

Personally, I wouldn't touch these pieces of **** again (standard or built), but that's my personal view based on a number of reasons.

Carnut

The facts are irrelevant to the majority of SN, if just to understand how bad the issue was would be good.

I ask you this, I have been through every post of the engine failure sticky, how many failures do you think there are? Have a guess and then I'll let you know, but make it a genuine one, I'll get you started, there in double figures.

Shaun

Unless that thread gives a true representation, it's irrelevant in highlighting the magnitude.

Carnut

Exactly but in case you are interested its 27 hatch onwards a couple of hawk sti's and a couple of blob sti's.

Some are from Europe but not many, ie not uk.