Gaza
It seems to me that you want to interpret everything Israel does in a bad light.
Who investigates when Hamas kill Israeli civilians? Has anyone been arrested for the murders of those three Israeli teens yet? Israel arrested people when that Palestinian kid was killed, he stands an infinitely greater chance of seeing justice.
You don't think mistakes happen in war?
It seems to me that you want to interpret everything Israel does in a bad light.
Who investigates when Hamas kill Israeli civilians? Has anyone been arrested for the murders of those three Israeli teens yet? Israel arrested people when that Palestinian kid was killed, he stands an infinitely greater chance of seeing justice.
It seems to me that you want to interpret everything Israel does in a bad light.
Who investigates when Hamas kill Israeli civilians? Has anyone been arrested for the murders of those three Israeli teens yet? Israel arrested people when that Palestinian kid was killed, he stands an infinitely greater chance of seeing justice.
Really? Russia killed something like 27,000 civilians in five weeks during the battle for Grozny in the mid 90's. Mexican cartels are killed tens of thousands per year. How many civilians died when we went into Iraq or Afghanistan? There are wars going on all the time. There is one in Syria right now and several in Africa. One in Ukraine. The US are droning people every week. Rebels and other drug cartels in South America. Yet Israel gets a laser beam pointed at it.
As awful as civilian collateral deaths are lets not make Israel an exception or we are hypocrites.
As awful as civilian collateral deaths are lets not make Israel an exception or we are hypocrites.
Last edited by tony de wonderful; Jul 24, 2014 at 11:55 AM.
Nearly all these examples are separatists trying to break away from the main plan, or just straight out crims
- and Iraq / Afghanistan was/is a misguided attempt to police the world
This is rather different imo
- and Iraq / Afghanistan was/is a misguided attempt to police the world
This is rather different imo

As with all these so called "Wars" just follow the money.
You don't think mistakes happen in war?
It seems to me that you want to interpret everything Israel does in a bad light.
Who investigates when Hamas kill Israeli civilians? Has anyone been arrested for the murders of those three Israeli teens yet? Israel arrested people when that Palestinian kid was killed, he stands an infinitely greater chance of seeing justice.
It seems to me that you want to interpret everything Israel does in a bad light.
Who investigates when Hamas kill Israeli civilians? Has anyone been arrested for the murders of those three Israeli teens yet? Israel arrested people when that Palestinian kid was killed, he stands an infinitely greater chance of seeing justice.
For the thickies that fail to grasp the premise of a straw man fallacy.
What Is a Straw Man Argument?
I always think of the Straw Man from the Wizard of Oz, but that's not where the term comes from. In its simplest definition, it's the name of a logical fallacy, which means that if you carefully dissect the argument or statement, it doesn't make sense. Debaters invoke a straw man when they put forth an argument--usually something extreme or easy to argue against--that they know their opponent doesn't support. You put forth a straw man because you know it will be easy for you to knock down or discredit. It's a way of misrepresenting your opponent's position.
It's as if you took a flaming scarecrow, threw it onto the debate floor, yelled “Look, it's my opponent's dangerous straw man,” and then you appeared to save the day by dousing the flames with water. All while your opponent mutters, “That's not my straw man. What just happened?”
It can be annoyingly effective because in response you may be lured into clarifying what your position is not instead of talking about what your position is, and studies have shown that when you repeat a lie, even if you are repeating it to refute it, the repetition can reinforce the misinformation in the minds of some people.
What Is a Straw Man Argument?
I always think of the Straw Man from the Wizard of Oz, but that's not where the term comes from. In its simplest definition, it's the name of a logical fallacy, which means that if you carefully dissect the argument or statement, it doesn't make sense. Debaters invoke a straw man when they put forth an argument--usually something extreme or easy to argue against--that they know their opponent doesn't support. You put forth a straw man because you know it will be easy for you to knock down or discredit. It's a way of misrepresenting your opponent's position.
It's as if you took a flaming scarecrow, threw it onto the debate floor, yelled “Look, it's my opponent's dangerous straw man,” and then you appeared to save the day by dousing the flames with water. All while your opponent mutters, “That's not my straw man. What just happened?”
It can be annoyingly effective because in response you may be lured into clarifying what your position is not instead of talking about what your position is, and studies have shown that when you repeat a lie, even if you are repeating it to refute it, the repetition can reinforce the misinformation in the minds of some people.
For the thickies that fail to grasp the premise of a straw man fallacy.
What Is a Straw Man Argument?
I always think of the Straw Man from the Wizard of Oz, but that's not where the term comes from. In its simplest definition, it's the name of a logical fallacy, which means that if you carefully dissect the argument or statement, it doesn't make sense. Debaters invoke a straw man when they put forth an argument--usually something extreme or easy to argue against--that they know their opponent doesn't support. You put forth a straw man because you know it will be easy for you to knock down or discredit. It's a way of misrepresenting your opponent's position.
It's as if you took a flaming scarecrow, threw it onto the debate floor, yelled “Look, it's my opponent's dangerous straw man,” and then you appeared to save the day by dousing the flames with water. All while your opponent mutters, “That's not my straw man. What just happened?”
It can be annoyingly effective because in response you may be lured into clarifying what your position is not instead of talking about what your position is, and studies have shown that when you repeat a lie, even if you are repeating it to refute it, the repetition can reinforce the misinformation in the minds of some people.
What Is a Straw Man Argument?
I always think of the Straw Man from the Wizard of Oz, but that's not where the term comes from. In its simplest definition, it's the name of a logical fallacy, which means that if you carefully dissect the argument or statement, it doesn't make sense. Debaters invoke a straw man when they put forth an argument--usually something extreme or easy to argue against--that they know their opponent doesn't support. You put forth a straw man because you know it will be easy for you to knock down or discredit. It's a way of misrepresenting your opponent's position.
It's as if you took a flaming scarecrow, threw it onto the debate floor, yelled “Look, it's my opponent's dangerous straw man,” and then you appeared to save the day by dousing the flames with water. All while your opponent mutters, “That's not my straw man. What just happened?”
It can be annoyingly effective because in response you may be lured into clarifying what your position is not instead of talking about what your position is, and studies have shown that when you repeat a lie, even if you are repeating it to refute it, the repetition can reinforce the misinformation in the minds of some people.
I think a lot of what goes on in NSR has a lot to do with who's best with a keyboard and Google. Communicating through a keyboard or via text message is not natural and can sometimes be hard to read one another.
In the real world a lot of the loud mouths on here would be shot down and have no where to hide, you would be able to read the bulls**t in their face.
Modern day bullies that want to take some of their anger out on others because they feel frustrated that their life is not so good and prey on the nice as they see it as a sign of weakness.
You know the ones, they hate the successful and powerful and think everything is about money and see their ability to spell is a sign of their intelligence.
Trust those who seek the truth but not those who think they've found it.
In the real world a lot of the loud mouths on here would be shot down and have no where to hide, you would be able to read the bulls**t in their face.
Modern day bullies that want to take some of their anger out on others because they feel frustrated that their life is not so good and prey on the nice as they see it as a sign of weakness.
You know the ones, they hate the successful and powerful and think everything is about money and see their ability to spell is a sign of their intelligence.
Trust those who seek the truth but not those who think they've found it.
Last edited by Carnut; Jul 24, 2014 at 08:33 PM.
I think a lot of what goes on in NSR has a lot to do with who's best with a keyboard and Google. Communicating through a keyboard or via text message is not natural and can sometimes be hard to read one another.
In the real world a lot of the loud mouths on here would be shot down and have no where to hide, you would be able to read the bulls**t in their face.
Modern day bullies that want to take some of their anger out on others because they feel frustrated that their life is not so good and prey on the nice as they see it as a sign of weakness.
You know the ones, they hate the successful and powerful and think everything is about money and see their ability to spell is a sign of their intelligence.
Trust those who seek the truth but not those who think they've found it.
In the real world a lot of the loud mouths on here would be shot down and have no where to hide, you would be able to read the bulls**t in their face.
Modern day bullies that want to take some of their anger out on others because they feel frustrated that their life is not so good and prey on the nice as they see it as a sign of weakness.
You know the ones, they hate the successful and powerful and think everything is about money and see their ability to spell is a sign of their intelligence.
Trust those who seek the truth but not those who think they've found it.
There are a few guys on here who I would like to meet. James (Taylor), Chris (F1 Fan), Hodgy and a few others. I wouldn't mind having a meal out with these guys. My biggest regret is the chasm that befell between James and I due to our political difference. I considered James a good friend and strangely part of me still does. I'm rambling now so I'll stop before I make an idiot of myself.
I know the feeling Maz.
My former best friend who is a Hindu, the guy I let eat in my house, the guy I would do anything for is pretty much a member of Britain First now. It really is a shame as I can't believe I was dumb enough to relate to such a person. That's humans for you though.
My former best friend who is a Hindu, the guy I let eat in my house, the guy I would do anything for is pretty much a member of Britain First now. It really is a shame as I can't believe I was dumb enough to relate to such a person. That's humans for you though.
It's a folly to argue with someone over the internet, I'm guilty of it myself I'll readily admit. Sometimes it's difficult to not interject and give one's tuppence worth. Hey ho, it's all good fun and I don't mind a bit of banter. I've met a lot of great guys off here and got to know countless others well, some sadly no longer with us. I think when an individual is behind a keyboard they will comment with a certain amount of impunity. That's what the keyboard allows, anonymity. Deference goes out of the window.
There are a few guys on here who I would like to meet. James (Taylor), Chris (F1 Fan), Hodgy and a few others. I wouldn't mind having a meal out with these guys. My biggest regret is the chasm that befell between James and I due to our political difference. I considered James a good friend and strangely part of me still does. I'm rambling now so I'll stop before I make an idiot of myself.
There are a few guys on here who I would like to meet. James (Taylor), Chris (F1 Fan), Hodgy and a few others. I wouldn't mind having a meal out with these guys. My biggest regret is the chasm that befell between James and I due to our political difference. I considered James a good friend and strangely part of me still does. I'm rambling now so I'll stop before I make an idiot of myself.
I am. We've got a very, very finite time on this planet and spending it arguing and hating it is a waste. In as much as the internet brings us together it also pushes us apart.




