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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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It isn't especially with the Mercedes being that much quicker.

Tbh a lot of the interest in F1 (for me at least) is in the engineering, problem is the FIA stamp on any innovation quite rapidly these days. Although I must say the Mercedes turbo arrangement is very clever.
Yet they will lose that advantage next season as there are plans afoot to relax the engine design freeze so the others can catch up. In one respect I get that as we don't want to see one team dominating for four/five years (again), but on the other how galling must that be for Mercedes who have come up with the innovation?
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 10:02 AM
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You should maybe start playing dominos on a Sunday.
How do you play a pizza?

Good day for Lewis as Arsenal won too!

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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 10:11 AM
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Good day for Lewis as Arsenal won too!
What has that got to do with anything?
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
What has that got to do with anything?
He is an Arsenal fan.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 10:16 AM
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It's not just F1 that has one person/team that stands out from the rest, with the exception of the BTCC all the motor sports that I watch (that's a lot) have the same situation.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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I've never got into the football either I'm afraid, apparently it's all incredibly exciting cut throat competition between the competing sides in league

But we're less than a month into the season right,

I just couldn't keep concentration intrest till end April I'm afraid


Maybe I'll have to once I can't get out my chair
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 10:22 AM
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He is an Arsenal fan.
Oh well no one's perfect I guess.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yet they will lose that advantage next season as there are plans afoot to relax the engine design freeze so the others can catch up. In one respect I get that as we don't want to see one team dominating for four/five years (again), but on the other how galling must that be for Mercedes who have come up with the innovation?
Futher to that, what do we reckon on Big Bernie's plans to eliminate the minnow teams and require the big guns to run three cars?
Isn't F1 elitist enough without this kind of exclusion?
Do we really want to go back to fields of just 18 cars?
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Futher to that, what do we reckon on Big Bernie's plans to eliminate the minnow teams and require the big guns to run three cars?
Isn't F1 elitist enough without this kind of exclusion?
Do we really want to go back to fields of just 18 cars?
Just another example of not recognising that being in F1 is too expensive for the teams.

Implement a cost cap already!
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 11:06 AM
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Anyone understand why the Williams mechanic got angry with one of the wheel change guys? Couldn't fathom that.
I have a mate in the Williams garage who told me that 2 wheel guys tripped each other up coming out for the pit stop. Heat of the moment thing, they are pretty pumped up.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Carnut
It's not just F1 that has one person/team that stands out from the rest, with the exception of the BTCC all the motor sports that I watch (that's a lot) have the same situation.
Yep just look how far ahead VW are in the WRC running 3 cars, already have the manufacturers title this year and Seb will probably wrap the drivers title up in France next time out with VW 1 and 2.

back to back driver and manufacturer titles and the others are where?
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yet they will lose that advantage next season as there are plans afoot to relax the engine design freeze so the others can catch up. In one respect I get that as we don't want to see one team dominating for four/five years (again), but on the other how galling must that be for Mercedes who have come up with the innovation?
It is what it is though, Brawn the same thing with the F duct. If the rules allow it, the other teams will always copy bits off the fastest cars.

Mind you I can't help but notice I've not heard any of the teams accuse each other of cheating this season.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
It is what it is though, Brawn the same thing with the F duct. If the rules allow it, the other teams will always copy bits off the fastest cars.
You mean the double diffuser, the F-duct was McLaren's idea

Originally Posted by neil-h
Mind you I can't help but notice I've not heard any of the teams accuse each other of cheating this season.
You need to listen more carefully FRIC suspension was resulting in accusations so the FIA banned it
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
You mean the double diffuser, the F-duct was McLaren's idea
My apologies, you are indeed correct. Same principal though.

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You need to listen more carefully FRIC suspension was resulting in accusations so the FIA banned it
Ah yes, forgot about that. Although wasn't the FRIC debate done and dusted at the very start of the season. Where as the RBR flexi wing saga went on forever.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 12:37 PM
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Watched a about ten minutes of Wrc, gold coast I think.
That was enough, as far as i could tell every car was 1.6 litre shopping car trolley and the course might as well have been an obstacle course round a shopping centre car park

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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 12:43 PM
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yeah wrc is pretty crap now, so heavily regulated may as well just not bother. real shame. Just hope they dont go the same way with F1
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
My apologies, you are indeed correct. Same principal though.
Ignore me I am just being a pedant... or a 'rat' But yes same thing ... I suppose it just seems unfair sometimes that someone has a great idea and it gets copied or banned.

Originally Posted by neil-h
Ah yes, forgot about that. Although wasn't the FRIC debate done and dusted at the very start of the season. Where as the RBR flexi wing saga went on forever.
It was mid May I think when the FRIC rumours started, but I think the FIA have learned from the flexi-wing saga so acted quickly and decisively.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Oh well no one's perfect I guess.
Depends where your allegiances lie to make that assumption I guess.


Anyway, this result has made the final racing much more interesting and may the best man (Lewis ) win!
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mouser
Depends where your allegiances lie to make that assumption I guess.
I meant just liking football in general!
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Ignore me I am just being a pedant... or a 'rat' But yes same thing ... I suppose it just seems unfair sometimes that someone has a great idea and it gets copied or banned.
I can live with the copying, it keeps the teams pushing each other and it keeps the advancement in car design going. I do wish the FIA wouldn't run around banning everything though, the whole point in F1 is to push the envelope in what the rules and technology will allow. So banning any innovation the teams come up with seems wrong.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 02:49 PM
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Being honest just copying the merc split turbo idea wouldnt have helped Redbull with their cooling and battery problems, so it isnt just the turbo that has made the difference.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
Being honest just copying the merc split turbo idea wouldnt have helped Redbull with their cooling and battery problems, so it isnt just the turbo that has made the difference.
Agreed, its the whole package, which is why I think not only will merc develop this configuration even further next year and still edge it out I also believe that Honda Mclaren will be very tasty next year.
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Ignore me I am just being a pedant... or a 'rat'
Blimey, don't let everyone see that, you'll never live it down
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Old Sep 22, 2014 | 05:06 PM
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Blimey, don't let everyone see that, you'll never live it down
Shhhhh!
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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 08:08 AM
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Alonso at Mclaren
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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 08:14 AM
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Ferrari - Button
Apparently he has had an option, but there hasn't been a seat, but as soon as Alonso is confirmed, I'm informed this will happen next.

I don't really see Button as a Ferrari driver, but might save them a chunk of cash in salary?
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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 08:32 AM
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Isn't it all but certain Vettel is going to Ferrari?!

Kvyat > Red Bull [confirmed]
Vettel > Ferrari
Alonso > McLaren

Despite all the usual silly season 'denial', bluster, etc., reading between the lines, then those moves look to be all but '100%', based on all the info and interviews, etc. in qualifying on Sky F1 earlier.

If the above is to be believed, looks very much like Button could end up the loser in all this...

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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 10:36 AM
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Isn't it all but certain Vettel is going to Ferrari?!

Kvyat > Red Bull [confirmed]
Vettel > Ferrari
Alonso > McLaren
Unless Vettel is blind-siding everyone and going to McLaren If that was the case, which I doubt, where could Alonso go? If it did happen to be Vettel going to McLaren, Alonso would surely want Massa's seat.

Or Vettel and Alonso are both going to McLaren

Or, for those really in to conspiracies who believe Bernie wants three car teams next year, Alonso is joining Mercedes
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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
...Or, for those really in to conspiracies who believe Bernie wants three car teams next year, Alonso is joining Mercedes
Yeah, that was also mentioned on the box, but with no real seriousness. Lewis joked that Alonso would be the spare driver (or something like that lol)

But who knows!

We'll know the situation of the movers and shakers soon enough, I'll wager...

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Old Oct 5, 2014 | 10:49 AM
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Fantastic brave move by Hamilton on Rosberg on the outside of turn 1.
Rosberg may have the cooler and more calculating head, but when push comes to shove, he doesn't have the speed or skill to execute clean killer moves in the way that Hammy does.
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