Just bought an '06 Hawkeye Sti from a dealer, running into problems within 24hrs..
01 July 2014, 07:24 AM
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Don't mess about with this car mate, get shot of it. It sounds as though the dealers are doing the honourable thing and there's every possibility they have been caught out just like you. Take the refund and take your time finding a replacement. And perhaps steer clear of anything with a 2.5 engine.
01 July 2014, 09:15 AM
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Why would you take the money and run only to buy another un-forged impreza that could go pop again?
You have an opportunity to get a forged bullet proof engine to match the already bullet proof 6 speed setup, brakes etc of the STI. With a little investment you will have a very valuable forged car!
You have an opportunity to get a forged bullet proof engine to match the already bullet proof 6 speed setup, brakes etc of the STI. With a little investment you will have a very valuable forged car!
01 July 2014, 09:23 AM
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No no no , I'd be walking away with the refund
You want nothing to do with thr shoddy sales or spanner work ...
Cars come & go , been impatient won't help , wait for the right car to come along at the right price . & take someone with you that knows the script ..
Good luck on a future purchase
You want nothing to do with thr shoddy sales or spanner work ...
Cars come & go , been impatient won't help , wait for the right car to come along at the right price . & take someone with you that knows the script ..
Good luck on a future purchase
Don't mess about with this car mate, get shot of it. It sounds as though the dealers are doing the honourable thing and there's every possibility they have been caught out just like you. Take the refund and take your time finding a replacement. And perhaps steer clear of anything with a 2.5 engine.
I have to agree with Gambit on this.
I asked the dealer if they would contribute towards the car getting fixed (head gasket, secondary air pump, knocking suspension £2200~) and they offered £1000. I personally can't justify the cost for the rest, and if I was to do the head gasket I'd want to go forged at the same time.
As the dealer has offered to give me a full refund I will not be publicly naming and shaming - I will share my experience over pm in the hope that nobody else will have to go through what I did.
The car reg is RLZ 2793. STi in WRB, black alloys, backbox, front splitter, sprayed headlight housing. It will probably be listed back on online with a blank reg in the photos, though. I feel sorry for the next potential buyer if the problems aren't rectified. The head gasket leak is quite apparent in the coolant now.
Time to try and be patient till I get another now.. certainly relieved to have this ordeal over with
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01 July 2014, 09:24 AM
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Why would you take the money and run only to buy another un-forged impreza that could go pop again?
You have an opportunity to get a forged bullet proof engine to match the already bullet proof 6 speed setup, brakes etc of the STI. With a little investment you will have a very valuable forged car!
You have an opportunity to get a forged bullet proof engine to match the already bullet proof 6 speed setup, brakes etc of the STI. With a little investment you will have a very valuable forged car!
I haven't read through the whole thread, but it appears to me to be like this-
1) You have found a car you like and are essentially happy with, although it does now have a major fault.
2) The dealer has (apparently) offered a refund, but if he takes the car back he will incur costs to enable a resale.
3) As said there appears to be an opportunity to rebuild the engine with some costs bourne by the dealer and with forged internals - end of problem with the car you like.
I'm not sure if fixing the problem will result in you having a more valuable car, but you'll have a very quick road car with all the benefits of the STi set up.
01 July 2014, 10:26 AM
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Just keep in mind that if you start trying to do deals with the dealer then he may tell you to forget about it and he will see you in court.
It might be worth a quick question to see if there interested but if theres any resistance then take the refund and run, you may regret pushing your luck.
It might be worth a quick question to see if there interested but if theres any resistance then take the refund and run, you may regret pushing your luck.
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01 July 2014, 12:37 PM
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Nowt wrong with a 2.5 if it's properly built.
No difference if the HG's have gone 5 minutes after buying it or 12 months and one day down the road. Same fault, same fix.
No difference if the HG's have gone 5 minutes after buying it or 12 months and one day down the road. Same fault, same fix.
01 July 2014, 01:24 PM
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Some very dubious advice being given by people who obviosuly don't know about the long standing issues with subaru engines.
The faults you have found will happen to ANY impreza of that type. It's unfortunately all known issues. I have done the secondary air system delete on mine already since owning it, done the rear shocks & am expecting to do forged engine at some point & possibly a 6 speed conversion.
If the OP sells and buys a different car, who's to say these exact same problems won't happen on a different vehicle? He has a chance to get a very good car with all the known faults FIXED and sorted for trouble free motoring.
Alternatively, get your money back & go & buy a forged Hawk. There are not many about, hardly ever come up for sale and normally sell for a premium when they do.
To the OP, the crystal grey forged STI you posted about looks very nice indeed. I had my eye on that one. It may be an easier route to buy that with your refund.
Either way, good luck!
I should add.... there are no details on the other for sale thread about who built the engine & who mapped it. I'd want to find that out personally and see receipts as evidence.
The faults you have found will happen to ANY impreza of that type. It's unfortunately all known issues. I have done the secondary air system delete on mine already since owning it, done the rear shocks & am expecting to do forged engine at some point & possibly a 6 speed conversion.
If the OP sells and buys a different car, who's to say these exact same problems won't happen on a different vehicle? He has a chance to get a very good car with all the known faults FIXED and sorted for trouble free motoring.
Alternatively, get your money back & go & buy a forged Hawk. There are not many about, hardly ever come up for sale and normally sell for a premium when they do.
To the OP, the crystal grey forged STI you posted about looks very nice indeed. I had my eye on that one. It may be an easier route to buy that with your refund.
Either way, good luck!
I should add.... there are no details on the other for sale thread about who built the engine & who mapped it. I'd want to find that out personally and see receipts as evidence.
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01 July 2014, 06:49 PM
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I would 100% be taking the refund and saving up a bit more for a forged hawk. When I was looking to buy mine I wasnt even considering one without a forged engine after reading up on the 2.5's. One finally came up from a trader in the midlands and I px'd my old car for it. Was a bit wary at first but they were really nice guys and pleasant to deal with. Not sure what the prices are like now but when I was looking forged ones were only selling for about 1.5 - 2k more which seemed decent consideringthe build its self is easily £3500.
02 July 2014, 12:49 AM
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Getting the engine forged is a good idea but do you really want to get in bed with these people for a 2nd time after whats happened. They will want it doing at a garage that they see fit and possibly with cheap parts. I would consider asking if you could keep the car and get a part refund (wouldn't be much) to go towards getting it forged/fixed but I wouldn't hold my breath. They will be looking to do it as cheap as possible so will just want it back to mask the problems and resell.
It doesn't hurt to ask but I would be looking to get a full refund and run.
It doesn't hurt to ask but I would be looking to get a full refund and run.
02 July 2014, 08:46 AM
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The cheapest option by far would be to get your money back and buy this.
https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444...38k-miles.html
I can only assume you paid close to this for your broken STI from a garage?
As said above, forged engine will probably cost you £2.5k - £3.5k depending on spec. Don't let the garage do a slap dash bodge job on the car at a cheap mechanic.
Chris J T also raises a good point about pushing the dealer past their confort point with refund/rebuild costs so be careful.
Let us know what you decide. Good luck!
https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444...38k-miles.html
I can only assume you paid close to this for your broken STI from a garage?
As said above, forged engine will probably cost you £2.5k - £3.5k depending on spec. Don't let the garage do a slap dash bodge job on the car at a cheap mechanic.
Chris J T also raises a good point about pushing the dealer past their confort point with refund/rebuild costs so be careful.
Let us know what you decide. Good luck!
02 July 2014, 03:24 PM
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The cheapest option by far would be to get your money back and buy this.
https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444...38k-miles.html
I can only assume you paid close to this for your broken STI from a garage?
As said above, forged engine will probably cost you £2.5k - £3.5k depending on spec. Don't let the garage do a slap dash bodge job on the car at a cheap mechanic.
Chris J T also raises a good point about pushing the dealer past their confort point with refund/rebuild costs so be careful.
Let us know what you decide. Good luck!
https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444...38k-miles.html
I can only assume you paid close to this for your broken STI from a garage?
As said above, forged engine will probably cost you £2.5k - £3.5k depending on spec. Don't let the garage do a slap dash bodge job on the car at a cheap mechanic.
Chris J T also raises a good point about pushing the dealer past their confort point with refund/rebuild costs so be careful.
Let us know what you decide. Good luck!
happy!
02 July 2014, 04:04 PM
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i dont get how chucking 3k at a car to fix a problem that should have been done at the factory makes sense.
a forged rebuild is great if your pushing the car to high bhp but most never do, the 2.0 sti engine is good for 450 bhp and most will never get pushed this far due to the cost involved.
a widetrack blob is essentially the same car with some major plus points.
no poo.5 engine.
no dire by wire throttle set up
lower tax bracket.
why anyone considers a uk hawk sti is beyone me.
if you really want a hawk because of its looks just spend the extra 3k you need to put right the turd of an engine and get a jdm hawk which has the 2.0 engine still.
a forged rebuild is great if your pushing the car to high bhp but most never do, the 2.0 sti engine is good for 450 bhp and most will never get pushed this far due to the cost involved.
a widetrack blob is essentially the same car with some major plus points.
no poo.5 engine.
no dire by wire throttle set up
lower tax bracket.
why anyone considers a uk hawk sti is beyone me.
if you really want a hawk because of its looks just spend the extra 3k you need to put right the turd of an engine and get a jdm hawk which has the 2.0 engine still.
02 July 2014, 04:19 PM
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also buying from an enthusiast who knows the car usually means its been looked after and not run on 95 ron etc.
02 July 2014, 08:43 PM
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i dont get how chucking 3k at a car to fix a problem that should have been done at the factory makes sense.
a forged rebuild is great if your pushing the car to high bhp but most never do, the 2.0 sti engine is good for 450 bhp and most will never get pushed this far due to the cost involved.
a widetrack blob is essentially the same car with some major plus points.
no poo.5 engine.
no dire by wire throttle set up
lower tax bracket.
why anyone considers a uk hawk sti is beyone me.
if you really want a hawk because of its looks just spend the extra 3k you need to put right the turd of an engine and get a jdm hawk which has the 2.0 engine still.
a forged rebuild is great if your pushing the car to high bhp but most never do, the 2.0 sti engine is good for 450 bhp and most will never get pushed this far due to the cost involved.
a widetrack blob is essentially the same car with some major plus points.
no poo.5 engine.
no dire by wire throttle set up
lower tax bracket.
why anyone considers a uk hawk sti is beyone me.
if you really want a hawk because of its looks just spend the extra 3k you need to put right the turd of an engine and get a jdm hawk which has the 2.0 engine still.
If you want sensible, buy a corsa of if your family is a bit to big a focus.
To say that someone is not sensible buying a hawk and to have it forged is just madness coming from anyone that has owned a Subaru/performance car. In the process you could have racerom (which is for the fly-by-wire only) and have duel maps, so one for the road/mpg and one for fun with all the toys eg launch, flat foot shifting etc.
At the end of it you will have a bullet proof engine, which is no guarantee even with a blob, some good torque and a face that is less common and a few years younger looking than the blob...oh and its a widetrack.
People that by hawkeyes may be mad
but so is anyone that buys a scooby, if you want sensible, speak to my dad he will show you how he ģets 70ish mpg with his diesel.
03 July 2014, 06:37 AM
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or 3.0 manual s5,no LPG on this -TFSI
thats the thing with imprezas, id always go for service history,condition and if its been modded make sure the parts are of decent quality and the thing has been mapped by a known mapper.
also buying from an enthusiast who knows the car usually means its been looked after and not run on 95 ron etc.
also buying from an enthusiast who knows the car usually means its been looked after and not run on 95 ron etc.
i bought mine for 6.5k till now I spent about 5k plus service but i have no additional stamp from purchase date
still no power upgrade
just decrease (LPG) 
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