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Old 23 April 2014, 08:27 AM
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Turns out larfage started early with the fascism , since his attendance at that nice Dulwich college
Old 23 April 2014, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
One things for sure' UKIP will wipe the floor with votes ....... like it or not.

Do you want the Tories some more? No of course not, that would be madness!

So, what are you going to do about it? Let's get these Eton posh boys out and some real men in FFS!

And why would that be?

As for 'real men', where do you suppose we find them? 'Cus it's certaintly not in the UKIP camp.
Old 23 April 2014, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Their latest add campaign warns that "them euros will be coming over here taking our jobs"


But you really couldn't make it up

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27115043

I suppose as I have said before - everyone is a special case
Oh the irony,they were a racist party from the start,many of there members and staff are ex BNP.SJ.
Old 23 April 2014, 09:18 AM
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Pete - yours is a common mis-conception: most of UKIP's voter-base isn't ex-Tory, it's ex-Labour. They're "white faced, grey haired, and blue collar". They're a generation of low skilled workers who feel dis-engaged from the current political class - Milliband, Cameron and Clegg have such similar backgrounds that they're indistinguishable. Farage offers them something different, at least until the current hoo-ha about his MEP expenses and German wife has blown up.
And if you really think Labour offers fairness, you need to look again. Chucking good money after bad isn't fair on anybody.
Old 23 April 2014, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I don't mean in the ***** .... because these are Eton Boyz and don't have any!

I mean in the Political ***** .... at the ballot box .... vote UKIP!!

It will send the eebee jeebees up them!

Then, of course, in the May 2015 General Election vote Labour and let's get the fairness back into Britain!

Use your vote - people died so that you could ...... spoil your paper, if you must, but - always - turn out to vote!

If you vote UKIP then please do it with your eyes open... as this will result in the worse possible outcome, Ed Milliband PM
Old 23 April 2014, 10:28 AM
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Not if we vote UKIP in the European elections....or do you know something that we don't?
Old 23 April 2014, 10:51 AM
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You lot make me p1ss, do you really think anything will change for the common man on the street?

It doesn't matter who's in power they're all the same. They're all in it for a ride on the gravy train.

As for getting the scroungers off the dole and into work good luck with that, that's the reason we NEED foreign workers and have done since ww2 the working class became the dole class as it's easier to sit on your **** than get out of bed and go to work, and why would you when your living the life of riley ********, boozing and smoking your days away whilst watching sky tv on your flat screen with surround sound.

If we kick out the "foreign" workers half of the country will grind to a halt.
Old 23 April 2014, 10:59 AM
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...I feel as though there may well be some truth in that.
Old 23 April 2014, 11:21 AM
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Think its about time we try something new maybe ukip is that maybe not but were the ones with no *****. I just hope labour don't get in and make a mess of it again.

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Old 23 April 2014, 12:12 PM
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Vote UKIP
Old 23 April 2014, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
You lot make me p1ss, do you really think anything will change for the common man on the street?

It doesn't matter who's in power they're all the same. They're all in it for a ride on the gravy train.

As for getting the scroungers off the dole and into work good luck with that, that's the reason we NEED foreign workers and have done since ww2 the working class became the dole class as it's easier to sit on your **** than get out of bed and go to work, and why would you when your living the life of riley ********, boozing and smoking your days away whilst watching sky tv on your flat screen with surround sound.

If we kick out the "foreign" workers half of the country will grind to a halt.
If we did something as daft as removing all foreign workers from our economy it would have catastopic economic and social implications

Fortunately not even UKIP are suggesting this course of action - not yet anyway
Old 23 April 2014, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Not if we vote UKIP in the European elections....or do you know something that we don't?
Nope.

I was essentially talking about the impact that a strong UKIP showing would have in a General Election.
Old 23 April 2014, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
Vote UKIP
I hope that's tongue in cheek, they'll be straight after your sort, successful middle class businessman, your tax will go through the roof and once all the dole scroungers get jobs, first purchase will be a Subaru and they'll all hang out at your place smoking weed, drinking special brew and wanting discounts for cash.
Old 23 April 2014, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
If we did something as daft as removing all foreign workers from our economy it would have catastopic economic and social implications

Fortunately not even UKIP are suggesting this course of action - not yet anyway
Tell that to the jews.
Old 23 April 2014, 12:31 PM
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Are we removing Jews now?

Wouldn't be the first time........
Old 23 April 2014, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Are we removing Jews now?

Wouldn't be the first time........
No but Hitler started out softly softly and look where it ended.
Old 23 April 2014, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I hope that's tongue in cheek, they'll be straight after your sort, successful middle class businessman, your tax will go through the roof and once all the dole scroungers get jobs, first purchase will be a Subaru and they'll all hang out at your place smoking weed, drinking special brew and wanting discounts for cash.

Old 23 April 2014, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mungo

Pete - yours is a common mis-conception: .....
Lewis is a misconception


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Old 23 April 2014, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
No but Hitler started out softly softly and look where it ended.
Excuse my asking, but in the early 30's, didn't Jews oppose Hitler, refuse him credit, refuse to supply him or work with him, even go as far as declaring him and his party not fit to govern?

I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere........
Old 23 April 2014, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Excuse my asking, but in the early 30's, didn't Jews oppose Hitler, refuse him credit, refuse to supply him or work with him, even go as far as declaring him and his party not fit to govern?

I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere........
I bow to your superior knowledge. So I guess they asked for it then.
Old 23 April 2014, 06:18 PM
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Asked for it?

To be exterminated? I think not.
Trouble? yes, maybe, if it's true.
Old 23 April 2014, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Asked for it?

To be exterminated? I think not.
Trouble? yes, maybe, if it's true.


So the jews shouldn't be allowed to choose who they do business with and on what terms?
Old 23 April 2014, 07:05 PM
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All this bollox about Hitler and the Jews ..... WTF has that got to do with the UK cutting loose and going alone in the world?

Now, I must admit, the EU has got some brilliant rules coming up - like banning modified cars, MOT's are to test a car as it was built ... any deviation results in a fail.

But some rules are just daft .... like it being illegal to pee on a Policeman on fire.
Old 23 April 2014, 07:07 PM
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Isnt UKIP a kind of BNP Lite, Daily Mail in political party form ?

I kind of want to dislike Farage but havent quite managed it yet but to be honest I dont think the Tories are doing that bad of a job compared to the previous lot.
Old 23 April 2014, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar

I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere........
Der Stürmer?
Old 23 April 2014, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
All this bollox about Hitler and the Jews ..... WTF has that got to do with the UK cutting loose and going alone in the world?

Now, I must admit, the EU has got some brilliant rules coming up - like banning modified cars, MOT's are to test a car as it was built ... any deviation results in a fail.

But some rules are just daft .... like it being illegal to pee on a Policeman on fire.
It's not about cutting loose though is it pete, I'd have thought that a man of your years and intellect would be able to grasp the fact that this aspect of their policy is just about paying lip service to the current popularist band wagon point of view.

As Jacko says it's a watered down for public consumption version of the BNP, but much like your chosen party and the unions, once in power they will have to pay the piper and homage to the party faithful / BNP or National Front or whatever name the racist change to. oh yeah could that be UKIP.

I find it quite amusing that he has a German wife and wants to kick out foreigners or at least stop them coming here, if that doesn't tell you he's a man of double standards then nothing will.

As for the hitler thing, point being it's the thin edge of the wedge after a few years in power it would be like the arien race situation where only PURE BLOOD ENGLISH MEN were welcome here, can you imagine how they would look? pop down to your local council estate and look for the goofy looking big eared 6 fingered webbed feet inbreds that can barely string a coherent sentence together, Burberry baseball cap and can of tennants is also a bit of a give away.
Old 23 April 2014, 08:40 PM
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The biggest lie the other parties spin is that we will lose 3 million jobs the minute we leave the EU.

We can make our own rules on tax & trading benefits & still deal with EU partners on exactly the same terms we do now.


Large multi-national companies do not throw multi-million pound deals down the toilet just because we wont be in the EU.They will deal & make decisions based purely on a financial basis,the same as they would with any other country in the world.
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Yes, but how much would it cost to disassemble the EU starting tomorrow
Old 23 April 2014, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I hope that's tongue in cheek, they'll be straight after your sort, successful middle class businessman, your tax will go through the roof and once all the dole scroungers get jobs, first purchase will be a Subaru and they'll all hang out at your place smoking weed, drinking special brew and wanting discounts for cash.
No they won't, as they won't get in. It's their INFLUENCE I'd like to see on the other parties, bringing in some strategies that I would prefer to see.

I'll agree re those wishing discounts for cash. IE Sod Off..
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How much would it save?

This why the confusion.No one is analyising the figures to get a realistic view.Hence the argument is futile.
The Scots were told by the IMF they would be screwed if they went independent.The pro-independent parties just chose to ignore the report or say it was inaccurate.

The chances of getting a fair & balanced independent financial report that the politicians agree with is unlikely.


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