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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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Just wondering if there is any milage (lol) in getting a tank and buying 300 gallons of Derv at wholesale prices to stock at home? Is this cheaper than Tesco? It is the same 'bulk; principle I apply to buying other stuff from Costco/Makro after all...

I really need to pay less as it has just cost me £70 in fuel to go see my ol' mum and dad over Easter. Its a bl00dy luxury now to stay in touch with your parents!!!

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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Cheap fecking old diesel and plenty of vegetable oil although vegetable oil is 80p a litre now used to be 49p a litre 18 months ago.

Pick up my 96 primera diesel next week
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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errr - no is the simple answer, I'm afraid.

you'd need a fuel licence, and it would cost you for the tank. you'd need a lot more than 300 gallons for a sensible delivery - i.e. you'd be setting up a tank large enough to supply a petrol station to make it worth your while. It would only work when oil prices were rising unless you had the fuel throughput of a fuel station - otherwise you'd definitely lose money on the downside

a bunch of rambling from me (i've had a drink) but the bottom line is stomach it and get on with life. investing in a big fuel tank isn't the way forward. having an excuse not to visit the in-laws feels good to me!

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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordo
investing in a big fuel tank isn't the way forward. having an excuse not to visit the in-laws feels good to me!
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You can get 300 gal deliveries mate (check me handle ) just like central heating oil (as some heating systems actually use diesel). Guess I need to make a few calls to suppliers. And no there is NO way I'm thinking of getting red diesel or putting sunflower oil through my 350Lb Ft Beemer with 6 x fuel injectors @ £300 each jobbie.

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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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False set of plates, and a heavy right foot leaving the forecourt = much cheaper
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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You dont need a licence for diesel as heating oil is the same stuff and you don't need one for that.

The problem is the minimum amount that you can have delivered
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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.and the possibilty getting you tank dipped by the fuzz
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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My house has a 1000 litre oil tank for the heating and costs about 700 euros to fill up. No licence needed for it either.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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you can buy them secind hand for here and there. My old next door neighbour had a tank full of red for his tractor.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
Cheap fecking old diesel and plenty of vegetable oil although vegetable oil is 80p a litre now used to be 49p a litre 18 months ago.

Pick up my 96 primera diesel next week
ASDA are doing Pura for 59p a litre
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
My house has a 1000 litre oil tank for the heating and costs about 700 euros to fill up. No licence needed for it either.

How much

1000 litre tank here too, £548. 400% increase in the last 5 years.
So, who is it, the Oil Companies or the Government????

How come Wurzels is sooooo much cheaper than mine.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:34 PM
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Got to be LPG mate.

I've just picked up an ebay cheapo. A 1985 W123 Merc 230E with a 50 litre LPG tank. 49.9p a litre near me and it does ~30mpg on it

For the amount it has saved me thus far I need to do another 1200 miles in it to have paid for itself and the fully comp insurance
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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no but i was thinking about digging down to one of the fuel lines that suuplies the airports and tapping into it.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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Well I just called a local supplier and they do DERV for 96p a litre - sounds promising as its about £1.15 on the forecourt. Looks like I can save £190 every 10 weeks or so for me by having it on tap

I then called them back and asked if it included VAT...it didnt...so that's a dead duck now then Thought that was going to be the best idea I had this year

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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We have a 5000 litre diesel tank at work. As you've discovered, there's no great saving to be had buying in bulk. Supermarkets are usually cheaper than a bulk delivery TBH.

You can gain a bit if you fill the tank before a price increase, but it is a bit of a gamble.

The biggest benefit we found is the greater control we have over the diesel - we know it's going into one of our vans. When we used fuel cards, it was rumoured that one employee was filling more than his works van with it.

It was a huge advantage when the fuel protests were on a few years ago, as we had a tankful of diesel to keep us going when people were struggling to buy it on the forecourt.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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simple answer is no you won't save any money

boss pays about 3p a litre less (or did when I last saw the reciepts, it was 92 for him and 95 on the forcourts at the time)
take the cost of the tank into consideration, a tank of any decent size is gonna be a good few quid,

he buys 25000 litres at a time,
done it mainly for convienience (sp) ie the trucks fill up in the yard at the end of the day rather than feckin about on garage forcourts with fuel cards in the morning/evening rush hour
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pauly
simple answer is no you won't save any money
Nope

I am now researching Iranian home fission devices and putting a windmill on top of the car to charge a battery

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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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I said this on another thread: why not look into LPG fumigation. Add an LPG kit to your diesel to deliver 25:75 ratio of LPG to diesel. Gives ~20% hike in power and a ~30% improvement to fuel economy and reduces your pence per mile. Works on ALL diesels.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
I said this on another thread: why not look into LPG fumigation. Add an LPG kit to your diesel to deliver 25:75 ratio of LPG to diesel. Gives ~20% hike in power and a ~30% improvement to fuel economy and reduces your pence per mile. Works on ALL diesels.
Now that would take some research! However good to know you can use it on Diesels. Any tax advantage? D
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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Get a tank and go red
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel
Now that would take some research! However good to know you can use it on Diesels. Any tax advantage? D
You can buy kits for it, been used in the US for ages and the Aussies are catching on to it. There's a couple of places doing it over here. I was thinking BMW 335d + DMS + LPG = ~400bhp and 60mpg

Not sure whether going LPG lowers your tax or makes you C-charge exempt, but I think so.
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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Reminded me of this story

BBC News | UK | Taxi driver faces jail for fuel hoarding
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by lozgti
Unbelievable!!! At least with Diesel you can drop a match into it and the match goes out. With petrol YOU go out! D
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 02:06 AM
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The other thing is the quality of the fuel. Cheapo diesel could easily be more expensive in the long run if pumps/injectors wear more quickly.

And if you buy your diesel stock in the summer, it will wax in winter temperatures if you don't use it quickly enough.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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= red
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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Anyone know what TVO is - that takes me back a bit! Maybe this is the answer!
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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<pedant mode>

It's 'diesel' not 'DERV' in this context....

DERV is what you put the diesel in!

</pedant mode>
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr.No
<pedant mode>

It's 'diesel' not 'DERV' in this context....

DERV is what you put the diesel in!

</pedant mode>
Disagree! You order DERV for the Landrover and Diesel for the tractor. ?

D
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