Carbon/ceramic brakes
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Carbon/ceramic brakes
Does anybody know of any companys offering carbon/ceramic break kits which would fit a gc8 ? It would probably be overkill I know but I'm still curious. I'm also aware that they don't come cheap
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I can probably sort you something however all in you won't have much change from £12K quid.
You may be able to come up with a cheaper solution using a Porsche or Ferrari disc and a Brembo produced caliper that will take a PCCB spec pad.... however using second hand carbon ceramic bits can be false economy as you have no idea of how they have previously been used and will still pay big money for them second hand.
Also despite Porsche/Ferrari marketing they do not last forever, especialy not if used to stop a heavy car from high speed on a regular basis. Longer than steel, yes but not forever!
They are also capable of putting a lot more heat into the hub/upright/wheelbearing etc. as they will keep offering good brake performance past the point where an iron disc/conventional brake setup would show some fade. This can lead to fairly rapid wheel bearing failure.
On the plus side a good CC setup will save you 9 - 17KG's (depending on your current disc size and material) of unsprung rotational mass..... which is a pretty massive amount!
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M
You may be able to come up with a cheaper solution using a Porsche or Ferrari disc and a Brembo produced caliper that will take a PCCB spec pad.... however using second hand carbon ceramic bits can be false economy as you have no idea of how they have previously been used and will still pay big money for them second hand.
Also despite Porsche/Ferrari marketing they do not last forever, especialy not if used to stop a heavy car from high speed on a regular basis. Longer than steel, yes but not forever!
They are also capable of putting a lot more heat into the hub/upright/wheelbearing etc. as they will keep offering good brake performance past the point where an iron disc/conventional brake setup would show some fade. This can lead to fairly rapid wheel bearing failure.
On the plus side a good CC setup will save you 9 - 17KG's (depending on your current disc size and material) of unsprung rotational mass..... which is a pretty massive amount!
Cheers
M
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Wow £12k, that's abit rich for me. I was under the impression that the Porsche cc option was circa £5k. This would clearly be a cheaper option but they sit very snugly behind 19" alloys I really don't want to change from my 17's. I'm aware that they are a serviceble component.
Thanks for your reply
Thanks for your reply
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If you're plan was to buy the bits from Porsche and have another hat/caliper bracket made to run them on an Impreza then its a sound plan but circa £5K is more the option price than the cost of the bits.
If you can source them without paying the Porsche/Ferrari mark up then you'll be much better off.
To give you some idea the PCCB kit for the 996 C4S was circa 11k and that was made in volume as it was the same as the GT2's brakes.
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If you can source them without paying the Porsche/Ferrari mark up then you'll be much better off.
To give you some idea the PCCB kit for the 996 C4S was circa 11k and that was made in volume as it was the same as the GT2's brakes.
Cheers
M
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Purely out of interest, as I have no intention of spending £5k let alone £11k on brakes, what's carbon and what's ceramic on these brakes?
I'm well aware of carbon carbon brakes in F1 and I run a carbon carbon clutch on my sprint car. Clearly these aren't like that as they are steel coloured and not matt black when you look through the wheels.
So what material do these brakes use? Is it a carbon pad on a basically steel disk with ceramic coating on the braking face or what?
I'm well aware of carbon carbon brakes in F1 and I run a carbon carbon clutch on my sprint car. Clearly these aren't like that as they are steel coloured and not matt black when you look through the wheels.
So what material do these brakes use? Is it a carbon pad on a basically steel disk with ceramic coating on the braking face or what?
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The Ceramic discs on the Porsche's were a waste of time as they were cracking and falling apart when customers were taking them on the track , I remember reading that people were taking them off and going back to iron discs.
I cant see why anyone in there right mind would go down this route , except to score more points in the bar
I cant see why anyone in there right mind would go down this route , except to score more points in the bar
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