The Seer

My Type-R is using standard o.e.m. 4-pot calipers,discs and pads. The pedal feel is quite soft with less resistance felt than I think is normal. Certainly noticed when driving enthusiastically.

I don't wish to upgrade to a big brake kit as I'll probably be selling the car in a year or so.

Is this a common problem with this particular car? Any idea of what causes it and how to fix it?

Thank you.

Phildodd06

Hi i have a type r, and your right, the pedal is quite soft, im upgrading my break lines to goodridge braided lines there £55 delivered from ebay
They will improve the feel of your pedal
Im also upgrading my break fluid to dot 5.1 so it is unlikly i get break fade too
This is also another cheap mod to help out
You can get Mintex 1155 pads which are fast road pads, they work well and dont need to be warmed up before use aswell
Im going to upgrade to these when my pads were down that are currently on.

The Seer

I'd suggest Ferrodo DS2500. Never tried the Mintex but the DS2500 were definately an uprgrade for the Integra I used to have. Get alot of brake dust though.

So dot 5.1 will reduce fade? I thought fade was caused by limited surface area on the disc. Becomes too hot compared to a larger area used in big brake kits. Hence not having a fade issue. I was under the impression that 5.1 has a higher boiling point so pedal feel will be stiffer after braking hard for long periods. I don't know what fluid is in at the moment, I'll use some too. It all helps.

I've heard that a brace on the master cylinder may help as well. I'll probably do all this at once since it isn't exactly a costly expense.

Phildodd06

5.1 does have a higher boiling point, which means it takes longer to fade under hard breaking.

What is this bracket thn?

The Seer

I thought fade is associated with the discs not fluid. Discs become too hot, gasses don't escape properly.

The brace stops the master cylinder flexing back and forward. Obviously some of the movement of the master cylinder is transferring effort which should be carried on the calipers.

Found this out from the Type-R/RA forum when I posted the same question. You'll see it on there and a place of where to buy one I believe.

Hopefully this will stop some of the poor braking ability.

Phildodd06

From what i know as the break fluid ages it boiling point gets lower from a mixture of being heated up and from water that gets in there over the years (condensation)
This makes it boil faster which fades the breaks.
Obviously hot discs will fade too.

Phildodd06

Where is the Type-R/RA forum? i cant find it...

FUNNKYMONKEY

iTrader: (2)

Spot on,5.1 fluid should be changed regularly because it can attract condensation which will reduce its effectivness,It does have a higher boiling point though.This will only aid the braking strength and not reduce fade.
To reduce the fade you need to discharge the gases which build up upon heavy braking (grooves ,holes and vents etc)or increase the braking surface area and force, so that you use the brakes for less time.

The Seer

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stockcar

some crossed wires here, there is no difference in life between a decent dot4 and a dot5.1 if used in similiar situations...................we normally advise a fluid change every 2yrs min. and more often if doing trackdays, etc...............

alyn

Phildodd06

Cheers