Need Help Stopping My Scooby.....
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Need Help Stopping My Scooby.....
I need to get my car to stop or to slow down better than it does when i brake. Ive had few scary moments when my *** has chewed cloth.. Ive got a 93 classic (Jap) and need to up grade my brakes. Ive heard 4 pot OR 6 pot is the direction to go. So next question what is the cheapest option to do this or has anyone got some second hand brake systems for sale that will fit my car.. Remember i need this help for as cheap as chips.. Still paying off Christmas on the plastic.. Thank you in advance for your help and advise...
Jason..
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Best and most expensive option -AP 6 pots.
Cheapest option for you - get hold of some newage Brembo brakes. Lots of people on here have gone that route and are really happy with it.
Cheapest option for you - get hold of some newage Brembo brakes. Lots of people on here have gone that route and are really happy with it.
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whats it like when you brake?? is it slow to start braking or just seems to keep rolling?? cheapest option might be to consider your pads first of all. something like Pagids perhaps, decent sharp bite with little brake fade.
are you not already running 4pots?
(i had similar probs but pagids sorted it -oh and new discs! )
are you not already running 4pots?
(i had similar probs but pagids sorted it -oh and new discs! )
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If it's anything like my old MY98, then the brakes have alot of initial pedal travel and then bite but not confidently. As suggested previously, the best conversion is to the MY99 4 pots; they bolt straight on as a direct swap. You will need new 298mm disks though.
Another adgustment that can be made is to extend the rod behind the brake peddle by removing the cir-clip and adjusting the locking bolts, then refitting the cir-clip. This will reduce the peddle travel to where you like it, but may require some trial end error to get it just right.
Hope this helps
Another adgustment that can be made is to extend the rod behind the brake peddle by removing the cir-clip and adjusting the locking bolts, then refitting the cir-clip. This will reduce the peddle travel to where you like it, but may require some trial end error to get it just right.
Hope this helps
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Exactly the same prob as you. Needed brakes - had no money :-(
Didn't research properly before getting my Scoob, have a Uk 97 model - doh !
Needed new discs anyway and I got grooved fronts (original small size though) up graded brake hoses (BF Goodrich or Black Diamond on eBay) to braided types. These remove the inconsistant feel. Before I had these pumping the brake pedal gave more feel after the initial push - worked but not confidence inspiring.
Now have got Ferodo DS2500 pads in - brillient for about £100 !! Mintex & Pagid are good too. I'm happy enough for now for road use to be honest
I'm absolutely certain bigger discs and 4 pots would improve things again, but depending on money you should really consider the braided hoses and new pads.
On a track day at Rockingham I could only manage 3 laps before brake fade, mind you thats all a brand new STi could do too and he wasn't much faster than me. He was completely standard. So just by changing the pads on the small discs, it seems to give similar capability to new STi (albeit that's quite a bit heavier)
Call ASperformance dot com Alyn very helpful on brake front.
DO NOT USE GREEN STUFF PADS, I was sold them when I was even wetter behind the ears than I am now, I had my front pads on fire - dangerous if you have any spirit in your driving style :-)
Exactly the same prob as you. Needed brakes - had no money :-(
Didn't research properly before getting my Scoob, have a Uk 97 model - doh !
Needed new discs anyway and I got grooved fronts (original small size though) up graded brake hoses (BF Goodrich or Black Diamond on eBay) to braided types. These remove the inconsistant feel. Before I had these pumping the brake pedal gave more feel after the initial push - worked but not confidence inspiring.
Now have got Ferodo DS2500 pads in - brillient for about £100 !! Mintex & Pagid are good too. I'm happy enough for now for road use to be honest
I'm absolutely certain bigger discs and 4 pots would improve things again, but depending on money you should really consider the braided hoses and new pads.
On a track day at Rockingham I could only manage 3 laps before brake fade, mind you thats all a brand new STi could do too and he wasn't much faster than me. He was completely standard. So just by changing the pads on the small discs, it seems to give similar capability to new STi (albeit that's quite a bit heavier)
Call ASperformance dot com Alyn very helpful on brake front.
DO NOT USE GREEN STUFF PADS, I was sold them when I was even wetter behind the ears than I am now, I had my front pads on fire - dangerous if you have any spirit in your driving style :-)
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On my MY99 I put Mintex pads and dimple/grooved discs on and they were excellent. Sounded good too with the wind running through them
On my current 02WRX I have just added Ferodo DS2500's which do the job nicely...
Before I made those changes, brake fade was scary after a "back road blip". In the MY99 I had an Ormskirk - Formby blip with an astra coupe turbo, got to an unexpected t-junction, hit the middle pedal and only my reactions prevented a rear end shunt ...
Well worth a £100 - £250 investment...
On my current 02WRX I have just added Ferodo DS2500's which do the job nicely...
Before I made those changes, brake fade was scary after a "back road blip". In the MY99 I had an Ormskirk - Formby blip with an astra coupe turbo, got to an unexpected t-junction, hit the middle pedal and only my reactions prevented a rear end shunt ...
Well worth a £100 - £250 investment...
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For a start you could remove your brake bias valve. The couplers don't cost much, a fiver perhaps. That makes a big difference for very little £s.
Mintex brake pads are my choice, in part because I can buy them at a good price but there are some other makes of good pads available.
1166 or 1155 on the front depending on which car it is and 1144 on the back.
If your brakes are spongy then bleed them and if still spongy, change the fluid.
Mintex brake pads are my choice, in part because I can buy them at a good price but there are some other makes of good pads available.
1166 or 1155 on the front depending on which car it is and 1144 on the back.
If your brakes are spongy then bleed them and if still spongy, change the fluid.
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hi mate just done the 4 pot upgrade on my 92 wrx today.
parts used subaru calipers, cheap omp pads, evo sportdiscs d+g, black diamond hoses.
calipers £200
pads £25 ebay new
discs £60 "" ""
brakehose £40 "" ""
total £325 this has improved no end, solid brake pedal.before there was alot of travel. hope you get yours soughted mate. btw make sure you have the right wheels on i had to use some spacers on 16"s.
danny
parts used subaru calipers, cheap omp pads, evo sportdiscs d+g, black diamond hoses.
calipers £200
pads £25 ebay new
discs £60 "" ""
brakehose £40 "" ""
total £325 this has improved no end, solid brake pedal.before there was alot of travel. hope you get yours soughted mate. btw make sure you have the right wheels on i had to use some spacers on 16"s.
danny
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Hi can anyone tell me if i will need spacers to fit the subaru 4 pots to MY95 turbo 2000 with subaru 16" alloys they are the 5 spoke ones from around the My96onwards car ?
Cheers
Phil
Cheers
Phil
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Thanks a lot myblackwrx im awaiting delivery of a set of them now i will let you know how i get on with fitting. Im planning on braided hoses and ebc red pads hoping this will be significantly better than the old 2 pots im running at the moment. Also thinking of disconnecting the ABS as it tended to kick in quite a lot even though the car want slowing down much. Any thoughts?
cheers
Phil
cheers
Phil
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They are stocked at my local subaru specialist but Alyn at AS Performance - Rally Motorsport Specialists is the man to speak to as he is highly regarded by a lot of people on here.
If you can stretch your brake budget go for grooved discs (i made a mistake by sticking with the standard discs, although good, i would benefit more if i'd bought some decent grooved discs)
If you can stretch your brake budget go for grooved discs (i made a mistake by sticking with the standard discs, although good, i would benefit more if i'd bought some decent grooved discs)
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