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Old 16 August 2006, 10:05 AM
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Default Toyo T1R vs Yokohama Parada Spec 2... Opinions please

As above chaps, im going to be getting some new wheels very shortly and have the following tires to choose from.

I dont know alot about either TBH, although i do know how much i love the Bridgestone RE070's with their super stiff sides. My other thoughts was to buy some Vredestein Ultra Cs.

But seeing as the package is available with the above tires i thought id do some asking. So please what are your thoughts on the above tires and what sort of driving do you do :ie, road, track, sprints etc

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Old 16 August 2006, 10:50 AM
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i've just got rid of my toyo T1-s's and got a set of goodyear eagle f1's - first impressions are they are a much better tyre with a good, reinforced side wall, i'm waiting a few days to scrub them in befre really pusing them

I've also had a set of verdesteins before - they were pretty good too
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frayz - how did the re070 hold up at the ring?
Old 17 August 2006, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
frayz - how did the re070 hold up at the ring?
Wasnt on the 070s @ the ring mate. It was chucking it down anyway so any kind of boost saw all 4 spin up anyway lol
Old 17 August 2006, 01:24 AM
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Just had a set of Paradas spec 2 fitted (£58 each plus fitting ).

First impressions are good, fairly quiet interms of road noise. And bloody grippy in the dry. Plenty of squeel before they even hint at letting go. In fact I've struggled to lose any form of traction or grip so far without intentionally doing something stupid (obviously not trying hard enough ).

Softish sidewall seems to give quite a jiggle-free ride. Steering feedback is still as numb as ever, but nothing any different than you'd expect from an old scoob (classic scoob PAS ).

Quite a sticky coumpound: I took half the gravel from the works car park with me back home - wheel arches may need undersealing again now

Not tried them in the wet or damp yet - that is thr true acid test for any tyre imo (seeing this country is always wet/damp for 90% of the year), as all Yokos I used previously have been diabolical in the damp, I hope they exceed my expectations, but they are a dirt cheap tyre, so I'm not holding much hope.

Trean pattern looks eveil too

I don't expect them to last long either

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Sharkman where did you pick them up for £58 please??

Trevor

Frayz im still on RE070s so cant help- sorry mate
Old 17 August 2006, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
frayz - how did the re070 hold up at the ring?
They work really well, although at high temps and high speeds you do tend to get chunks coming off, not too deep though so no real problem.

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Old 17 August 2006, 02:00 PM
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just had 2 yoko pardas fitted on mine yesterday havnt had chance to see what there like yet as i need a new stud.bloody thread is nearly striped so best go easy till then.they do look the dogs tho.
more news to follow.
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Originally Posted by T123VOR
Sharkman where did you pick them up for £58 please??

Trevor

Frayz im still on RE070s so cant help- sorry mate
Bit of a one off deal via friend of a freind via Stapletons wholesale (tyre distributor). But apparently they are very cheap at the moment anyway, along with conti-sports 3.

Had a bit of whizz round in the wet to day, certainly not as bad as other Yokos I've previously experienced.
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i have been running parada spec2`s on the front of mine for a while now (i rekon i can make the old bridgestones on the rear last until winter and then i can fit my winter wheels )

and they seam pretty good, they seam to be lasting quite well, but i am running them at 34psi and i normally scrub away both inner and outer shoulders

wet weather can be good, but greasy wet weather can turn the tables!
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Any other opinions on either of these.

Im also looking at the new Vredestein Ultrac Sassanta's as fitted to the new Astons etc..

Heard nothing but great news regarding them
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The paradas are nice and controllable and good for drifting in the wet, I like them
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Originally Posted by frayz
Any other opinions on either of these.

Im also looking at the new Vredestein Ultrac Sassanta's as fitted to the new Astons etc..

Heard nothing but great news regarding them
Shame they don't come in 'normal' sizes tho'!
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Originally Posted by spuckle
Shame they don't come in 'normal' sizes tho'!
They do mate, just not advertised on their site
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Default Parada spec 2 as trackday/sprint tyre?

Anyone know how the Parada spec 2 would be as trackday/sprint tyre? I'm interested in the fact that they do an unusual 205/40-16, which would lower the car by 1" (and weigh less) on my forged trackday wheels. I could go lower on the coilovers, but that would start to compromise the geometry. Wet performance not an issue, as I use my 17" road wheels if it rains.

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Old 29 August 2006, 09:05 PM
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Hi there !

I disagree a lot with some things that have been said here.

1) The Goodyear Eagle F1's GSD3 have a bloody soft sidewall ! I've tried them at the Ring and the wall was getting worned out !!! And of course they overheat in such conditions...It's a really great tyre in the wet and quite nice in the dry. However they wear out in no time. 20.000 km and 3 laps of the Ring in my case.

2) The Yokohama Parada Spec2 : this is another world! The sidewalls are very strong, they'll give you some pain in the *** to mount on the wheels ! The pattern looks like a semi-slick, and it feels like it too ! Awesome grip in the dry, stays greatly under control when approaching the grip limits by telling you far in advance.... and easily recoverable once those limits are past! In the wet it'll grip OK, but no way as much as the F1's. Very very slippery in the wet when approaching their end of life. I've done 22 laps of the Ring with the same set of Parada's + 25.000 km of roads...
and they still have some life in them! I'm pretty sure these are amongst the very best summer tyres available, just below the real semi-slicks (Yoko A048R, A032, Toyo888, etc)

However, how in the world did you manage to get the parada's at 58 quid ??? I paid £105 each and that was -40% off the public price... size 215/40R17 though.

And I paid the F1's £80 each in 205/50R16

Hope this helps !
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However, how in the world did you manage to get the parada's at 58 quid ??? I paid £105 each and that was -40% off the public price... size 215/40R17 though.
As I said, friend of a friend. Bear in mind retail prices for tyres is well over 50% markup...and they still made a profit from £58! God knows what the markup is on Toyos (didn't stock them). And for yokos which usually are a pain in the wet, these are quite progressive and don't give any drama, which is nice, as I thought they were going to be hedgefinders in the wet

As for the GSD1's...they need lots more air pressure in them than stock when driven hard. Otherwise the sidewalls split from being overloaded/underinflated for the conditions (often noted on here).
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Originally Posted by flyingflatfour
However, how in the world did you manage to get the parada's at 58 quid ??? I paid £105 each and that was -40% off the public price... size 215/40R17 though.
mytyres do them for 80 quid. Yoko dealers have been known to supply them for around 350 fitted! You should have phoned around, mate. Or checked on here 1st!
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have got to say that the RE070 were awesome at the ring.... grip, more grip and then some.

done 12,500 miles on a set so far and that includes a trackday of 60 laps at snetterton and 13 laps of the ring at quite quick speeds and still a few mill left in them.

will definitely be getting them again now.... love em
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Originally Posted by dynamix
have got to say that the RE070 were awesome at the ring.... grip, more grip and then some.

done 12,500 miles on a set so far and that includes a trackday of 60 laps at snetterton and 13 laps of the ring at quite quick speeds and still a few mill left in them.

will definitely be getting them again now.... love em
Awesome aint they mate.. shame they dont come in 18"
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trying to get some 235's next time
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I'm on my second set of T1R's now and find them excellent. The only moan wood be driver side front wearing quickly on the shoulder but that was after a year. Dry weather handling to me is on rails. Wet weather handling to me is...... is it raining? No really is it actually wet? don't notice hardly any difference.
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Originally Posted by dynamix
trying to get some 235's next time
I've got these and they are awsome in the dry on a track ... (especially with ASTs as they complement each other nicely) ... don't like them on the road though as they tramline too much and are poor in the wet as I suspect they are too wide.

Originally Posted by evilic
I'm on my second set of T1R's now and find them excellent.
I'm on my first set .. and they will be my last. I don't know whether it is because I am on 17" as opposed to 18" which many people run, but I find the T1R sidewalls buckle suddenly mid corner causing instability and me to struggle to keep the car on the road.
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I still swear by my RE070's even through the winter these have been great.

Recently did a wet track day at Snetterton in them, they were great even then
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