doppelganger

im looking for some road legal slicks for a ten second road car and would be gratful for any input regarding make or ones you have used and liked.


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GC8

Some companies make just-legal track day tyres; these will be your best bet. A slick tyre; even if you can cut it and remove the 'not for highway use' warning is not up to being used on a normal road. Another possible alternative would be a tarmac rally intermediate but they will be expensive; Colway might be a good alternative if they havent gone bust again.....

Simon

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Bridgestone do the RE070 semi slick tyres, they are quite good in the wet also, Toyo do the T888, Michelin do the Cup tyres.
These are about as close as you are going to get to slicks that are road legal.

Tony

RRH

The Bridgestones are excellent in the dry, and quite good in the wet, but are absolutely shocking in the damp. R888s about the same, although not quite as good in the wet.

A friend of mine has an M3 CSL with cups, and they are stunning in the dry but suffer from massive aquaplaning at anything over 50 in the wet

dela

I have read some rave reviews of road legal Kumho slicks, well performing but a bargain compared to Michelin Cups etc. Didn't get a chance to try them as I sold my scoob...

I have personal experience of the Yokohama A032R - fantastic tyres, but will probably wear a lot faster than the new breed of track-day road legals from Avon/Toyo etc.

RRH

Must admit the Kumhos do look god although I haven't driven on them. My mate reckons the cups for his CSL cost him over a grand a set, and he gets through quite a few!

dela

Just to add - the Kumho tyre I was talking about was the Ecsta V70A, and the new Avon is the ZZR.

Useful site is:
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m4b102s13p0

GC8

.....I dont want to be pedantic but there is no such thing as a road legal slicks; it simply isnt possible.

RRH

is a slick tyre which is either moulded to have minimum legal tread, or a slick which has had a minimum 'to be legal' tread pattern cut in it, no longer a slick then?

GC8

http://www.cars.u-net.com/colwaymotorsport.htm Either the inters or the Formula 2's may do you; 15" rim max though. The 17% / 83% F2's are excellent, especially at only £60 in a 205/50/15 fitment.

Simon

GC8

A slick tyre has no tread; a slick tyre cut (which is a pain in the **** with a tyre cutter; Ive done it) still isnt legal even if there is sufficient 'cut' area. Dont think that taking a soldering iron to the 'not for highway use' legend on the sidewall will fool anyone either. If you knew a little more about tyres youd realise that a true slick weighs **** all, it isnt durable like a road tyre and it has little resistance to puncturing either.

Edited to add: Dont confuse compound with construction; as well as having no tread (!) a slick tyre has a completely different construction to a road tyre, no matter how extreme. A road tyre may have a sticky compound with the minimum %'age of groove, it may even be supplied buffed, but it isnt a slick.

Simon

911

I have hill climbed for 2 years now on Kumho V70's, in 17'' x medium compound and this year on 16'' x soft.
I drive 3000 road miles on them, they grip like a leech, run straight and true at 3 figures and cost about £105 a corner all-in.

Absolutly fab tyres.

There are no road legal moulded slicks.

I tried the remould Max sports/Colway and at £50 each are a bargain, but the Kumhos are proven to be faster.
A hill climb start is 5000 rpm and dump the clutch, just like drag racing!

911

RRH

fair enough

GC8

Were the Colways 15" fitments or are larger sizes available? It did used to be the case with the original company, that a lot of their range wasnt mentioned on the website or commonly stocked by resellers.

That was your 2,000th post btw!

Edited to add: were they MaxSport RB5s / RB5 Wets that you used as theyre available in a 16" & 17"? I havent used these so Im curious to know what theyre like.....

Simon

mike_330

get some toyo r888's, I'm going to get some in the spring

GC8

http://www.cars.u-net.com/maxsport.htm

Look here at the RB5 and RB5 Wet; described as 'moulded slicks; road legal' just to add to the confusion..... Still; a slick is just that; free of tread and cutting it doesnt make it road legal. These are inters not slicks but they should do you.

Simon

Pavlo

My 10 second road car runs on Yoko A032-Rs, but they are expensive and I will not be replacing them with more of the same. I will go with the Kuhmo v70 or may try the Toyo R888.

Paul

911

Depends what you need.

for hill climb you need a tyre that will perform from cold, and heat up VERY quickly.
The Colway/Maxsports are designed for that, a rally tarmac stage blast.
The Kumhos fit in this bracket also, especially the soft compound. After a 50 second hill climb the surface is 'burred'/'grained' whatever the word just like a track slick after 5 laps!
The grip is also down to the sidewall stiffness.
The Kumho's are very 'upright' and square to the rim (like a crossply slick) and you can get them in a range of diameters.
I use 16's with a 590mm rolling dia so the gearing is low = better accelleration/braking.
My size is 16 x 205 x 45.
The Kumhos also are resistant to tyre pressure differences which helps for the ultimate grip!
I sound like a Kumho salesman, I'm not, but when you are flat out, about 1 meter from 200 year old trees and double height Armco you need to find a tyre that GRIPS as (I'm) so bloody scared trying to keep on the tarmac.....

Don't you just love speed events?

911

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Definately have to agree with you there, but i have to say that they do give you a fair bit of notice in the damp that they are breaking traction, though i did get outpaced on a damp roundabout by an A class merc

Tony

warrenm2

how about the Dunlop D01Js ....

doppelganger

i do know what you mean about slicks ,because i use them on my drag racer .but i was asking the question for some body else ,who really ought to know better because he also races but wants to use it on the road aswell.
but all of the info given will be taken into consideration (he already knows i like yokomamas).but hey if you dont ask.
cheers all keep it comin`


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Andy.F

Yes, excellent choice for straightline and cornering.

Andy

BlueBoy

but did the Merc topple over shortly after???

The RE070's I had on my SpecC were very good indeed in the dry and well worth the compromise in the wet as they did the job, just weren't Goodyear F1 capable

How about the Yoko Parada's - anyone tried them as they seem like a similar design to the RE070's, I've heard good things about their grip levels in dry and wet, but their life can be measured in weeks, not months