P1 4pots and MY98 - Wheel won't Turn!!!!!
#1
If you have the original SuperTourismo wheels from Prodrive (double 6 spoke), then there is not enough clearance to fir the 4 pot brakes.
I too have these wheels - though now sold (and due to go to their new owner in a week or so), and am currently looking around for the best deal on wheels which will clear bigger brakes. I had 11 people enquire about my wheels when I advertised them for sale, so you should have any problem in selling them.
You can get the Brembo conversion from Scoobysport which will fit with these wheels, but I understand they use a small spacer to give just enough clearance.
It isn't so much the offset that causes the problem, but the shape of the spokes on the inside of the wheels...
I too have these wheels - though now sold (and due to go to their new owner in a week or so), and am currently looking around for the best deal on wheels which will clear bigger brakes. I had 11 people enquire about my wheels when I advertised them for sale, so you should have any problem in selling them.
You can get the Brembo conversion from Scoobysport which will fit with these wheels, but I understand they use a small spacer to give just enough clearance.
It isn't so much the offset that causes the problem, but the shape of the spokes on the inside of the wheels...
#2
I have just had some 4Pots from a P1 fitted to my 98MY. The disks and calipars fit no problem. When I put the wheels (17inch SuperTs) back on the wheels will not turn! They are the wrong offset.
Do I have to buy new wheels!!! Or is there another solution.
HELP!
Do I have to buy new wheels!!! Or is there another solution.
HELP!
#3
What offset are your wheels?
It may not be just the offset, but the thickness of the spokes - how much extra space do you need, you could use small spacers if it is not far out (A lot of people frown on spacers!), but if the offset is wrong then the spacers could put back to where it should be - however it is unusual to have to big an offset on a scooby!!
Paul
Paul
It may not be just the offset, but the thickness of the spokes - how much extra space do you need, you could use small spacers if it is not far out (A lot of people frown on spacers!), but if the offset is wrong then the spacers could put back to where it should be - however it is unusual to have to big an offset on a scooby!!
Paul
Paul
#5
Sell them and get new wheels, there's a version of the supertourismo (evo) that works with the 4-pots. The offset is 48 (I think) on that one, so with 205x45's you're home free - but with 215x40's you'll need to remove the rear rubber thingy on the wheel arch. (I had to with my Tecnomagnesios, 17x7 ET48 - 215/40 F1's when I lowered it with the GGS022 Tein springs from GGR).
*blablabla*
Spacers won't change camber (the inwards tilting of the wheel), what it will do is alter track width and steering geometry.
And it'll make the tires rub even worse...
Sooo...the only sensible option is to get new wheels - or ditch the brakes.
[This message has been edited by SecretAgentMan (edited 10-07-2000).]
*blablabla*
Spacers won't change camber (the inwards tilting of the wheel), what it will do is alter track width and steering geometry.
And it'll make the tires rub even worse...
Sooo...the only sensible option is to get new wheels - or ditch the brakes.
[This message has been edited by SecretAgentMan (edited 10-07-2000).]
#6
Clive,
If the wheels are the standard Prodrive (Speedline) SuperTourismos (six 'double' spokes) then as you have unfortunately found out, these wheels do not clear the standard 4 pots, due to their spoke pattern/positioning. In fact, this is why the ST2 was introduced as an alternative.
My suggestion would be just to bite the bullet and buy new wheels. You should be able to shift a set of 17" supertourismos without too much problem, which will go some way to easing the pain.
Alternatively, sell on the 4 pots, and consider alternatives that will work with your wheels (unfortunately, the only one I know off is the Scoobysport Brembo kit, and that's gonna cost you a lot more than new wheels).
Certainly I'd be wary of playing about with spacers, as you're not going to do the handling any favours....
HTH
Alastair
If the wheels are the standard Prodrive (Speedline) SuperTourismos (six 'double' spokes) then as you have unfortunately found out, these wheels do not clear the standard 4 pots, due to their spoke pattern/positioning. In fact, this is why the ST2 was introduced as an alternative.
My suggestion would be just to bite the bullet and buy new wheels. You should be able to shift a set of 17" supertourismos without too much problem, which will go some way to easing the pain.
Alternatively, sell on the 4 pots, and consider alternatives that will work with your wheels (unfortunately, the only one I know off is the Scoobysport Brembo kit, and that's gonna cost you a lot more than new wheels).
Certainly I'd be wary of playing about with spacers, as you're not going to do the handling any favours....
HTH
Alastair
#7
Spacers may not be a good idea for a number of reasons but they definitely wont alter the camber,
Sounds like new wheels (I did hear of someone who had his wheels machined down!!!!! but that sounds much worse than spacers
IF the ofset is incorrect spacers might fix the problem and give you thecorrect alignment
Paul
Sounds like new wheels (I did hear of someone who had his wheels machined down!!!!! but that sounds much worse than spacers
IF the ofset is incorrect spacers might fix the problem and give you thecorrect alignment
Paul
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#8
If you want to keep the wheels, another option is a big-disk upgrade from Hi-Spec in Dartford.
315mm disks/bells using the standard calipers £350+VAT.
I have the same wheels as you and they work fine...
Selling the 4 pots will cover the cost.
Thanks
Gavin
315mm disks/bells using the standard calipers £350+VAT.
I have the same wheels as you and they work fine...
Selling the 4 pots will cover the cost.
Thanks
Gavin
#9
Thanks, for the info guys.
I think the only option is to go hunting for some 17inch ST2s.
??Are 18inch wheels an option. I here that Subaru have them available for the P1. What about for a 98MY??
I think the only option is to go hunting for some 17inch ST2s.
??Are 18inch wheels an option. I here that Subaru have them available for the P1. What about for a 98MY??
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