SCOSaltire

thats better than i got...
1300 + vat
-10% discount
but no trade in of disks and calipers
someone has first refusal on my old brakes...
oh + braided hoses and fluid and fitting...

[Edited by SCOSaltire - 9/5/2002 8:52:59 PM]

ozzy

I've read through the other Speedlines post, but those wheels look different to my RB5 ones.

Anyone know if the Alcons or APR's fit under them?

Dealer told me no and wanted me to buy 4 new wheels/tyres. I'm not convinced.

Stefan

SCOSaltire

i am no expert, but...

APs will fit... 4pots.. for sure...
6pots... probably.

Alcons... will fit I am sure...
might be wrong here... but i am pretty sure...
no much help eh.

phone Fred (service manager) at Fiskens in Forfar 01307 462980

He will have the answer for you. A dealer I trust

Pavlo

RB5 rims are fine IIRC.

ozzy

Phil, you're about as useful as a chocolate teapot m8 I'll check with your man in Forfar.

Cheers,
Stefan

SCOSaltire

lol
how did u get on?
Decided what brakes to get?
alot say AP
others say go cheaper and just do the disks.
I gone for the prodrive ones, as u know.
i reckon prodrive ones will look good on ur rb5...
and doubt u will warp them - seems thats not done by using them but by misuse of them (left foot braking, long trailing braking, no cooldown / warm up).
also designed for the scooby... correct back / front balance?

ozzy

Hi Phil,

No haven't decided yet; got 500 miles (2 weeks) at most to decide. Unless I win the lottery I really don't fancy splashing out £1500 on brakes. I can think of better ways to spend that money at the moment; trip to Oz, Skiing holiday, etc..

AF Nobles quoted me £1200+VAT for the Alcons. They said my 4-pots were worth £150+VAT, so that comes out at £1233.75. What sort of deal did you get?

Stefan

Pavlo

if you only have the 4-pot calipers to sell (ie discs/pads dead) then you would probably get 180 on here for them quite easily.

For the money you're looking at you could get a better setup than the alcons, at least when it comes to replacing the alcon discs that is, at about £350 a pair.

www.hispecbigbrakes.co.uk do their own 4 pot alloy calipers in kits with 2 piece discs. discs cost about £70 each to replace.

www.raldes.co.uk do a wilwood kit, bit cheaper still, again with good value discs, but not got dust sealed pistons in calipers, so need servicing once a year or so.

www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk also do some alloy caliper kits using either brembo or wilwood calipers, not seen much of those kits from them, can't really comment. The brembo/porche kits seem like t good value at about £900.

The hi-spec and wilwood are good products, both less than £1200. My preference would be hi-spec caliper and wilwood discs ( a combo hispec do I believe)

Paul

SCOSaltire

ill have:
4pots, front disks, pads from front and back for sale.
and the 16" wheels too (with just legal proxies)

Pavlo

4 pots in good nick with part (ie not very) worn discs/pads seem to go for £250-£300 depending on what's about.

ozzy

Phil,

Forgot about the 10% discount, so maybe that would knock some more off the quote from Nobles.

I think I'd rather stick with a well-known name such as Alcon or AP-Racing. People have pointed out their potential resale value when I come to sell my car.

Phil,

Have you upgraded your wheels at all?

Stefan

SCOSaltire

got gold P1 17" wheels on now

disks are pretty worn - front pads are no bad.

Have said to someone that ill give them wheels n brakes for 330.
I think thats quite cheap

ozzy

Gold wheels, you tart

So, you definately going for the Prodrive upgrade or still thinking about the AP's?

Stefan

Pavlo

Wilwood are a well known make, but mainlyin the US where they supply Nascar and touring car teams.

4pot kit with 324mm x 32mm 2 piece disc £712.80+vat
6pot kit with 324mm x 32mm 2 piece disc £1042.0 +vat (billet calipers)

I think you are less likely to lose money spending around £900 (with pads etc) than £1800.

Movit www.movit.de are another good supplier I forgot about. Kit using monobloc calipers (1 piece, not 2 bolted together) with drilled Porsche discs, hoses and pads is something like £1600, I have an email with quotes if you're interested.

Paul

ozzy

If you could e-mail those Movit prices, that'd be great.

I'd rather know all my options.

Stefan

SCOSaltire

loads of brake options

i kinda did a snap decision - but am sticking to the prodrive ones.

the 1 piece disk/bell is a theoretical (sp) weakness... as is the weight... but ive spoken to someone who has them on his 22B.
Hes done over 1.5k miles on track on same disks - and over 20k road miles.

I reckon Prodrive will be worth a bit in trade-in (i know of someone who got 600 back for them)

APs might get the same / more - but seems to me that using the same 4pot caliper for 300ish and 330ish mm disks is a bit of a compromise? the AP 6pots are meant to lack a bit in feel...

loads to choose from tho...
the deciding factor for me was the prodrive name to go with the rest (even more of a tart? )

SCOSaltire

LOL
dead funny
been pointed out i cant afford the brakes just now
so i aint getting any...

dont laugh too loudly

ozzy

barge

find RobP

he has an real real nice RB5 with 'kin huge brakes

Andy W

Ozzy, I would keep hold of the OE calipers etc so you can sell the Big brakes when it comes time to sell.
Andy