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Old 12 August 2016, 09:22 PM
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Default Bit of brake help pls.

Recently had my discs and pads done on my widetrack by a so called Subaru specialist who has now decided to ignore me. So much for after care.

So I bought the Godspeed g hook discs front and back with the Kevlar pads again front and back. I have so far given them 300 miles to bed in as per Ian's instructions but they just don't bite like I would have expected. I'm not in any way blaming Godspeed for this I just want to get to know why exactly they are not stopping me like they should.

Have I given them enough time to bed in? Am I expecting too much as the brakes on my mk4 tdi golf have more stopping power? Also I have the abs light coming on intermittently. Could this be the cause? It's more than likely the speed sensor as it comes on at speed whilst driving.

Somebody help as I've spent over £500 on this lot including labour and it's not doing the job. I actually feel unsafe driving the Scooby too fast incase I have to stop in an emergency!

This so called socialist couldn't even fit my braided lines either. He did however manage to change the fluid.
Old 12 August 2016, 09:38 PM
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what sort of calipers are you using...

recently changed my 2 pot calipers on my WRX hatch to 4 pot brembos and the results are amazing and has transformed the braking on the car no end
Old 12 August 2016, 09:43 PM
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It's a widetrack which has the 4pot gold brembos as standard! This is what I'm saying the stopping power should be immense! This is what I don't understand?
Old 12 August 2016, 09:54 PM
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get the calipers refurbed, change and bleed brake fluid.
Old 12 August 2016, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by harry007
get the calipers refurbed, change and bleed brake fluid.
The mechanic bled the system and put fresh fluid in.
Old 13 August 2016, 06:57 AM
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Did you do the full bedding in procedure, 300 miles of light braking followed by 3 hard stops from 80-20mph with cooling off in between?
I've just finished bedding in my G-hook discs and they feel great.
I do get an annoying clicking noise when I brake tho,reminds me of when I was a kid and putting a lollipop stick in the spokes to sound cool lol.
The noise does seem to be getting less so hopefully it will clear up,if not I will see what Ian says could be causing it.
Old 13 August 2016, 07:19 AM
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Abs ring in one of the hubs could be cracked from changing the discs causing your light which wouldn't help braking either.
Old 13 August 2016, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
Did you do the full bedding in procedure, 300 miles of light braking followed by 3 hard stops from 80-20mph with cooling off in between?
I've just finished bedding in my G-hook discs and they feel great.
I do get an annoying clicking noise when I brake tho,reminds me of when I was a kid and putting a lollipop stick in the spokes to sound cool lol.
The noise does seem to be getting less so hopefully it will clear up,if not I will see what Ian says could be causing it.
Yes I did do this! What do you mean by clicking noise tho?

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Abs ring in one of the hubs could be cracked from changing the discs causing your light which wouldn't help braking either.
I guess I'm going to have to investigate this now the weekend is here. I do recall the mechanic having an issue with the passenger rear drum could this have anything to do with it?
Old 13 August 2016, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jonnyboy82
Yes I did do this! What do you mean by clicking noise tho?



I guess I'm going to have to investigate this now the weekend is here. I do recall the mechanic having an issue with the passenger rear drum could this have anything to do with it?
Yeah mine was stuck when I eventually got it off it had broke the abs ring, hopefully yours isn't but sounds similar
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Originally Posted by jonnyboy82
Yes I did do this! What do you mean by clicking noise tho?
It happens on light braking,doesn't do it on hard braking,the only way I can describe it is the lollipop in the bicycle spokes,or the wheel of fortune click,click,click,click! It's doing my head in now.
Do you get any noise when braking?

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Old 13 August 2016, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
It happens on light braking,doesn't do it on hard braking,the only way I can describe it is the lollipop in the bicycle spokes,or the wheel of fortune click,click,click,click! It's doing my head in now.
Do you get any noise when braking?
No I don't get any clicking but then again I don't get much braking! Lol
Old 13 August 2016, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jonnyboy82
Recently had my discs and pads done on my widetrack by a so called Subaru specialist who has now decided to ignore me. So much for after care.

So I bought the Godspeed g hook discs front and back with the Kevlar pads again front and back. I have so far given them 300 miles to bed in as per Ian's instructions but they just don't bite like I would have expected. I'm not in any way blaming Godspeed for this I just want to get to know why exactly they are not stopping me like they should.

Have I given them enough time to bed in? Am I expecting too much as the brakes on my mk4 tdi golf have more stopping power? Also I have the abs light coming on intermittently. Could this be the cause? It's more than likely the speed sensor as it comes on at speed whilst driving.

Somebody help as I've spent over £500 on this lot including labour and it's not doing the job. I actually feel unsafe driving the Scooby too fast incase I have to stop in an emergency!

This so called socialist couldn't even fit my braided lines either. He did however manage to change the fluid.
Comparing the golf brakes I have a 1.9tdi mkv and my brakes are no comparison to the Subaru definitely something not right there bro be careful when it comes to brakes hope you get it sorted
Old 13 August 2016, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ZANY
Comparing the golf brakes I have a 1.9tdi mkv and my brakes are no comparison to the Subaru definitely something not right there bro be careful when it comes to brakes hope you get it sorted
Thanks mate. Tbh I'm no expert so I may have to take the car elsewhere and spend more. This is what pisses me off I've spent enough already.
Old 13 August 2016, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jonnyboy82
No I don't get any clicking but then again I don't get much braking! Lol
Ok cheers,I'll take the pads out,give the calipers another clean up and see if I can get rid of the noise.
Apologies for the thread hijack btw lol
Hope yours is a simple fix,shame on the garage who ignore you!!! Sounds like a poor service
Let us know how you get on
Old 13 August 2016, 10:28 AM
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No worries that's what these forums are for mate! It wasn't a garage it was an Indy.

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Old 13 August 2016, 10:35 AM
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You sure it's just not the pads...Are they a generic set or what make ?
Old 13 August 2016, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
You sure it's just not the pads...Are they a generic set or what make ?
They are the Kevlar pads from Godspeed.
Old 13 August 2016, 10:57 AM
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The kevlar pads are suitable for those who use their cars as everyday drives , using it for work , shopping , kids to school ect , and like to give it a blast now and then , they are a good biting pad , that works from cold , are quiet and easy on discs.

Your car will never have brakes as sharp as a VW / Audi , and loads of other cars , as these seem to be over servo ed , the subaru servo is not the most powerful out there , which makes you have to press the pedal harder.

Make sure you finish the bedding in process , 300 miles of easy A & B road driving , then 5 hard stops , if you can find somewhere quiet to do a series of stops , if you can find a private road and get up to 80-100 and brake very hard down to 20 , then keep driving , don't come to a complete stop , drive for about 5-10 mins to cool them off , and repeat so 5 times in total , leave to cool over night and they should be right

You should get good initial bite from this setup , if you don't , something is wrong somewhere

Cheers Ian
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This is exactly what I have done Ian so I'm trying to figure out exactly what is wrong? I'm no mechanic although I will give anything a try.
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Originally Posted by jonnyboy82
This is exactly what I have done Ian so I'm trying to figure out exactly what is wrong? I'm no mechanic although I will give anything a try.
Who is said specialist? I'm having mine done tomorrow and got me paranoid now lol
Old 06 October 2016, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nufctoon
Who is said specialist? I'm having mine done tomorrow and got me paranoid now lol
Unless your in North London you are safe..lol
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