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Old 14 January 2010, 05:44 PM
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Unhappy OVERHEATING PROBLEM

Bit of a problem guys I just drove back from Fforestfach to my house (about 10 miles) and noticed my water temp going up but then my oil temp shot up to 130 degrees I cant see if i've got a leak in the radiator as its dark at the moment.

Woud a hole in the radiator make the Oil temp go up?
Taken me 1 and a half hors to come home
Old 14 January 2010, 05:58 PM
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Calvin, when you got home did you check the coolant - what I mean is it definitely overheating rather than having perhaps a wiring fault on the gauges?

I wouldn't recommend taking off the header tank cap while the car is hot but have you lost any coolant?
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Id say yes as the water is supposed to be cooling the engine,
If the engine temp is rising due to lack of cooling then the whole blocks temperature will increase so ur oil temp will increase.
hth
Old 14 January 2010, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Calvin, when you got home did you check the coolant - what I mean is it definitely overheating rather than having perhaps a wiring fault on the gauges?

I wouldn't recommend taking off the header tank cap while the car is hot but have you lost any coolant?
I put 2 litres of water in up in Pellegaer services and the temp dropped but by the time i got to the motorway it was off the scale.

Sounds like a hole in the rad then. Good excuse for an alloy one i think
Or maybe a blown hose. I will have to inspect it in the morning.

Thanks guys
Old 14 January 2010, 06:05 PM
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if u lose water the engine can not cool and will over heat, which in turn will warp ur heads and cause head gasket failure. check to make sure there is water in ut coolant tank, if not, and car didnt over heat as u kept a eye on it just idle car and monitor temp gauge and see if there is any coolant leaking from rad area or water pipes, check rad viens for damage. hopefully its somethings small like that, if not it could very well be head gasket failure. check to see if water pipes are hard when up to temperature, means gasses getting into water system and gaskets are shot.
Old 14 January 2010, 06:09 PM
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Good luck, I hope it is the radiator (best of the worst choices ), it would be a good excuse then to get an alloy radiator.
Old 14 January 2010, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Good luck, I hope it is the radiator (best of the worst choices ), it would be a good excuse then to get an alloy radiator.

Ditto above Calv - I hope it ain't serious, I had a similar prob on my JDM WRX Classic, turned out to a pinhole in the top of the plastic end tank, got a shot radiator with good ends and the radiator place in Sx, swapped them over for me - no worries after that It was a bugger to find though, as it seemed to come out only under pressuer/load, all seemed normal undet the bonnet - just water loss managed to see steam on one cold day and sorted it - what about the recent belt change mate - did the rad get re-filled enough etc etc .......................
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Check your oil Calv on the dipstick and at the oil filler cap for mayo and oil in water. Also check your water for oil just in case headgasket as gone.

Lets hope its a hose or something small.
Old 14 January 2010, 07:14 PM
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when you had the cam belt changed could something have hit the rad fins and caused a leak ?? hopfully you will get it sorted fella and i only say this as you have only just had cambelt done and when you do a belt with rad on it's very tight and can be easy to do
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Blame your Dad
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there are head gasket test fluids that change when they detect exhaust gasses. and pressure test water system. got the kit in work to do it. but i work in brecon. otherwise i cud look at it 4 u
Old 14 January 2010, 08:43 PM
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These engines are pretty good when it comes to head gaskets. Calv as I said on the phone check the bottom hose to double check. If its anything from the belt change I'll foot the bill.

I think it's a hose that I left a lil loose.
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
Blame your Dad
Yeah he was driving it the otherday and on Sunday. Lol.
Old 14 January 2010, 10:21 PM
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As Dylan said, I'd check the hoses first, esp. if the rad was taken off. Has the rad got a drain screw? If so I'd check that as they seem to enjoy loosening when the rad warms up.
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ive also got the "siffer kit" at the garage to check if the gases are in the coolant (head blown)
but also check what kev has said about the "mayo" look in the water and for water in the oil,
as the sniffer kit only finds if the heads blown across the bore to water jackets
the mayo would be if the heads blown across the water and oil canals

what ive seen the last week is that people have got no where near the needed amount of anti freeze in there water and bottom hoses are freezing up and hence the car will overheat and if you keep driving it will blow your head,

when you done the belt did you remove the rad ??? if so did you top up the aintfreeze when you replaced the water from removing it??
Old 15 January 2010, 01:21 AM
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The rad was removed when the belt was done so no risk of damage there. I will check the bottom hoses tomorrow when it goes up on a ramp.

No white substance on the oil cap. That was the first thing i checked.
After all the hoses are 13 years old now and probably due for changing

Anti freeze levels were fine
Old 15 January 2010, 06:53 AM
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Hope its something minor Calv, mine had this problem when i did my radiator and i found it to be the lower hose on the rad.

Age takes it toll on the pipes in the end.
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Originally Posted by wrx287
The rad was removed when the belt was done so no risk of damage there. I will check the bottom hoses tomorrow when it goes up on a ramp.

No white substance on the oil cap. That was the first thing i checked.
After all the hoses are 13 years old now and probably due for changing

Anti freeze levels were fine
If ever there was an excuse to buy some new samco hose, that's one

I was looking for an inlet hose last night and seen plenty of used samco rad hoses for sale, you might find yourself a bargin.
Old 15 January 2010, 10:00 AM
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Could it be the water pump
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Hopefully found the problem. Seems there was a bit of air trapped in the system. Filled the cooling system up today and let the car idle and the temp went to normal level and the heaters warmed up.
Hopefully thats the end of my worries for now
May still get some Samcos and an alloy rad though
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I think it will be, I had the same prob of an airlock that caused one overheat. Not too hot as I saw it straight away. Never had a prob since removing the airlock.
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Great Calvin - airlocks are buggers !!!
Old 15 January 2010, 05:22 PM
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these cars can be a mission with air locks and i always fill my system through my turbo hose and other hoses then leave to stand awhile then start it and leave run with cap off
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Ok if you look at the car from the front calvin with the bonnet open check the left side of the radiator as these are common to crack mine went took it to ricketts,guy said SUBARU common fault the heat of the water and the pressure causes it blow fine hair line crack,opposite side to where the pipe connects top left.
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Originally Posted by wrx287
Hopefully found the problem. Seems there was a bit of air trapped in the system. Filled the cooling system up today and let the car idle and the temp went to normal level and the heaters warmed up.
Hopefully thats the end of my worries for now
May still get some Samcos and an alloy rad though
Nothing worse than trapped wind

Glad your sorted, nice to have a easy fix now and again
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