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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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I went out to my car yesterday morning and it wouldn't start, i jumped started it and it was fine so i went over to my mate, then when i went to start it again it wouldn't start, another jump and i was off again.

When i got home i put the battery charger on the car and left it for 3 hours. i was off to the gym later and the car started 1st time no problem. when i came out of the gym the bloody thing wouldn't start again.

Now i thought this meant the battery was knackered. So this morning i bought a new battery for it, spent the last 15 mins fitting it and when i went to start the car......nothing All you can here is a click from the starter motor.

Is the starter motor my problem or is there something else i should check?

Prior to yesterday the car started first time every time with no hesitation

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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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it sounds like the starter
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wrx,sti
it sounds like the starter
If you use Jump leads does it start? if so it sounds like a new battery didn't solve it so it may be an electrical fault draining the battery (my Tracker has killed 3 batteries now ) or a charging problem not putting the juice back in.

Have you done any electrical mods to the car?

Do you run with the lights on. Not sure how much truth in the split charging system needing load to charge is but I always run with at last side lights on just in case.

Good Luck.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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sounds like starter is sticking or if there is an imobiliser it could be that playing up
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Well the new battery didn't make any difference, so i think that rules out a dodgy alternater, i got a mate coming over 2moro to check the starter.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by catalunya 172
if there is an imobiliser it could be that playing up

it does have an imobiliser, i'll get that checked if my mate says the starter is fine.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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use a multimeter to test

1. the alternator and see what voltage it produces at the battery
2. the voltage the starter motor is getting
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Just to let you guys know just incase you think im a dodgy person, i aint !!! lol it was starting first time every time.

As for the motor m8 my money is on earth if anything Paul, clean the earth connection and make sure its done up tight
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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i would say earth aswell.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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hi i had the same prob with my 99 s reg classic some times it would start sometimes would not after days of problem finding it was the imob wires going to the fuel pump had a break in them i have know 3 classics on 98-99 year with the same prob just a thought andy
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Originally Posted by Scudy23
Just to let you guys know just incase you think im a dodgy person, i aint !!! lol it was starting first time every time.

As for the motor m8 my money is on earth if anything Paul, clean the earth connection and make sure its done up tight
I know your not dodgy mate, it's just one of those things, gonna have a look at the earths 2moro and see what happens then.
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Ok, i cleaned the terminals but didn't do any good, so i tried something a mate told me to do, he said to put the car in gear and when you try to turn it over give the car a little push, i did this and instead of just a click from the starter motor it give out a sort of grinding noise, then after that it doesn't even click, is it fair to say that it is ****ed and that is probably my problem?
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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does it start with jump leads.it only sounds like an ignition problem to be honest.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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starter could be knackered m8

ok disconect the battery
remove the starter get some jump leads earth the starter from the battery to the body of the starter then from the live terminal of the battery touch it to the live on the starter but put it on the floor and hold it with your foot as this gives quite a nasty jolt if its working fine

i learnt the hard way many years ago

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Originally Posted by big daz2
does it start with jump leads.it only sounds like an ignition problem to be honest.
No, does not jump anymore,i'm almost 100% sure its the starter now. going to get a new one 2moro.
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Originally Posted by Scooby23
No, does not jump anymore,i'm almost 100% sure its the starter now. going to get a new one 2moro.
sorry to here this fella hope you get it fixed
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I feel like a right tw@t m8 you know it was starting ok tho Paul, its sods law tho, i tell you its never let me down and then it makes me out to be a lair..lol.

I had a few problems with a clio i bought, the day after the engine blew and cost me 1500 notes...lol

Let me know how you get on m8.
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go back to basics check that theres spark and work from there.
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Originally Posted by Scudy23
I feel like a right tw@t m8 you know it was starting ok tho Paul, its sods law tho, i tell you its never let me down and then it makes me out to be a lair..lol.

I had a few problems with a clio i bought, the day after the engine blew and cost me 1500 notes...lol

Let me know how you get on m8.
Mate, don't worry, its one of those things, once sorted i can get back to driving my best scooby ever owned
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Originally Posted by big daz2
go back to basics check that theres spark and work from there.
the car runs fine if bump started.
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Ok guys

Problem is solved

Took the starter motor off this morning and put the jump leads on it and found that the motor is knackered, wouldn't spin at first, then it did, then it didn't. So it has an intermittent fault

Nowi have to find a new starter motor at a reasonable price, phoned my local motor factors and they wanted £180!!!


Thanx for all the advice guys, i'll hopefully be back on the road soon
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Originally Posted by Scooby23
Ok guys

Problem is solved

Took the starter motor off this morning and put the jump leads on it and found that the motor is knackered, wouldn't spin at first, then it did, then it didn't. So it has an intermittent fault

Nowi have to find a new starter motor at a reasonable price, phoned my local motor factors and they wanted £180!!!


Thanx for all the advice guys, i'll hopefully be back on the road soon
get one off flee bay or scrapyard there is a good one in swansea that always got scooby parts
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Originally Posted by catalunya 172
get one off flee bay or scrapyard there is a good one in swansea that always got scooby parts

Just phoned pick up spares in swansea....on the shelf......£40
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Originally Posted by Scooby23
Just phoned pick up spares in swansea....on the shelf......£40
Bugger, went all the way down there and it was the wrong bloody one. Instead i've decided to take the hit and get a new one instaed.......£180.....ouch!!!
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cheap price to pay toget back on the road.
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Originally Posted by big daz2
cheap price to pay toget back on the road.

TRUE
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Originally Posted by wrx,sti
it sounds like the starter

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Originally Posted by wrx,sti
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Well chuffed, just called into the motor factors to get my starter and he only charged me £130
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bonus.did you give them your old one as this can bring the price down as they recon them.
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