S206 turbo breaks 550 bhp barrier.
16 October 2009, 07:02 PM
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S206 turbo breaks 550 bhp barrier.
These are this weeks results from our 2.1 stroker fitted with the Turbo Technics S206 turbo. Bear in mind this is achieved with standard V5 heads and cams and a bolt on turbo. Simtek mapping by Martyn.
16 October 2009, 08:44 PM
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I've no idea what Martyn's putting in it, and who cares? are you going to run 2.1 bar on paraffin? It's about boost, and the ability of the turbo to deliver it. Anybody can use whatever fuel they like as far as I'm concerned, and if they aren't using decent fuel at drag meetings, then they deserve a good kicking.
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16 October 2009, 10:37 PM
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Great work there guys. Very impressive figure, no matter what the fuel is !!
Last time I spoke Martyn was using this car every day so is he using normal fuel for daily and this for 'special' occassions ??
Last time I spoke Martyn was using this car every day so is he using normal fuel for daily and this for 'special' occassions ??
16 October 2009, 10:38 PM
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It's quite an important factor if you ask me. Misleading if you dont say it's racefuel.
Jo bloggs comes along spends a fair bit of cash on a 2.1 stroker and this blower. He's going to be pee'd off if he;s expecting that from V power.
Good result non the less but state all the facts!
Jo bloggs comes along spends a fair bit of cash on a 2.1 stroker and this blower. He's going to be pee'd off if he;s expecting that from V power.
Good result non the less but state all the facts!
16 October 2009, 11:05 PM
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I've no idea what Martyn's putting in it, and who cares? are you going to run 2.1 bar on paraffin? It's about boost, and the ability of the turbo to deliver it. Anybody can use whatever fuel they like as far as I'm concerned, and if they aren't using decent fuel at drag meetings, then they deserve a good kicking.
think thats what he said
16 October 2009, 11:13 PM
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It's quite an important factor if you ask me. Misleading if you dont say it's racefuel.
Jo bloggs comes along spends a fair bit of cash on a 2.1 stroker and this blower. He's going to be pee'd off if he;s expecting that from V power.
Good result non the less but state all the facts!
Jo bloggs comes along spends a fair bit of cash on a 2.1 stroker and this blower. He's going to be pee'd off if he;s expecting that from V power.
Good result non the less but state all the facts!
(I know you're only kidding Daz)In any event, I thought that's what switchable mapping is all about! I don't know what anyone else is up to, but we offer pump fuel/meth mix maps all the time. I appreciate it's harder to do when you don't have workshop staff and a dyno.
We are going drag racing again at Shakespeare at the weekend, and we wanted to see what could be done with a comparatively cheaply produced car, fully trimmed for the road, with weekend race fuel in it. We wouldn't find out sat on our ar-- now would we? We don't just talk about it you know..
This IS Martyn's daily transport, I'm sure as hell not buying him another one!
Purpose built drag cars are all very well, but not of much interest to the average guy who wants a fast car for himself without breaking the bank.
I'd say with the 2.1/S206 combo we offer a seriously good bang for buck option.
16 October 2009, 11:35 PM
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17 October 2009, 12:50 AM
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10 second run standard heads, more or less standard postion turbo and standard ver 5 box now thats quite an achievement.
17 October 2009, 09:27 AM
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Hats off to you guys (if i was indeed wearing one) 
Awesome results, looking forward to coming down and having a tweek once mine's hit 5k
Good luck for Shakespeare
Awesome results, looking forward to coming down and having a tweek once mine's hit 5k
Good luck for Shakespeare
17 October 2009, 11:19 AM
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Martyn,
I doubt anyone is suggesting you are trying to mislead anyone, but the fuel type and boost used are very very important, as you already know. Being totally transparant about what fuel used is about being totally upfront... people can not acuse you of anything else then. Always better to pre-empt the "haters".
Nice results and good luck with the continued development!
I doubt anyone is suggesting you are trying to mislead anyone, but the fuel type and boost used are very very important, as you already know.
Being totally transparant about what fuel used is about being totally upfront... people can not acuse you of anything else then. Always better to pre-empt the "haters". Nice results and good luck with the continued development!
17 October 2009, 12:15 PM
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Martyn,
I doubt anyone is suggesting you are trying to mislead anyone, but the fuel type and boost used are very very important, as you already know. Being totally transparant about what fuel used is about being totally upfront... people can not acuse you of anything else then. Always better to pre-empt the "haters".
Nice results and good luck with the continued development!
I doubt anyone is suggesting you are trying to mislead anyone, but the fuel type and boost used are very very important, as you already know.
Being totally transparant about what fuel used is about being totally upfront... people can not acuse you of anything else then. Always better to pre-empt the "haters". Nice results and good luck with the continued development!
As Stealthy pointed out, Martyn had already posted elsewhere online what fuel he was using, therefore it was no secret.
Martyn didn't post the graph, I did! I didn't ask him for permission first, we live 25 miles apart, and anyway, I hardly ever speak to him ....
I knew full well somebody would ask about whatever detail floated their boat, so I didn't bother rambling on about that, the same as I didn't say what he had for lunch beforehand.
(Chicken Tikka Masala sandwich, to counter your next question)
maybe that's the secret of his success, although the close confines of a dyno cell may not be the place to be afterwards!
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so is this more of a drag setup?
As i want a reliable weekend/nurburgring/track car setup, with early spool, good power etc.
i had my heart set on a Tomei setup (ARMS 7760 Turbo, 2.1 stroker & exhaust manifold), but the more i see and hear about this setup, the more i am wondering if it will do the job for me!?!
As i want a reliable weekend/nurburgring/track car setup, with early spool, good power etc.
i had my heart set on a Tomei setup (ARMS 7760 Turbo, 2.1 stroker & exhaust manifold), but the more i see and hear about this setup, the more i am wondering if it will do the job for me!?!
17 October 2009, 06:57 PM
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so is this more of a drag setup?
As i want a reliable weekend/nurburgring/track car setup, with early spool, good power etc.
i had my heart set on a Tomei setup (ARMS 7760 Turbo, 2.1 stroker & exhaust manifold), but the more i see and hear about this setup, the more i am wondering if it will do the job for me!?!
As i want a reliable weekend/nurburgring/track car setup, with early spool, good power etc.
i had my heart set on a Tomei setup (ARMS 7760 Turbo, 2.1 stroker & exhaust manifold), but the more i see and hear about this setup, the more i am wondering if it will do the job for me!?!
Compare it for the money, and you'll see where we are at.
17 October 2009, 10:17 PM
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Firstly I'm not a "hater" and dont get off on details. However, I honestly think that when posting results (especially ones as good as this) it would be wise to say that it was on full on race fuel and not just a vpower 10%meth mix +nf etc.
I wasn't acusing you of anything either all I'm saying is that when results are acheived using race fuel and then posted up its good form to say that race fuel was used.
As Shaun says, then you've been totally transparent about it.
As I said before though, excellent results regardless of fuel.
I wasn't acusing you of anything either all I'm saying is that when results are acheived using race fuel and then posted up its good form to say that race fuel was used.
As Shaun says, then you've been totally transparent about it.
As I said before though, excellent results regardless of fuel.
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PSDS is today.
I have the s206 on my 2.5 & have been to the Nurburgring/use it as a weekend car. I also use it on the drag strip - no problems using it in either scenario.
Great results Alan & Martyn
I have the s206 on my 2.5 & have been to the Nurburgring/use it as a weekend car. I also use it on the drag strip - no problems using it in either scenario.
Great results Alan & Martyn
18 October 2009, 10:50 AM
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Firstly I'm not a "hater" and dont get off on details. However, I honestly think that when posting results (especially ones as good as this) it would be wise to say that it was on full on race fuel and not just a vpower 10%meth mix +nf etc.
I wasn't acusing you of anything either all I'm saying is that when results are acheived using race fuel and then posted up its good form to say that race fuel was used.
As Shaun says, then you've been totally transparent about it.
As I said before though, excellent results regardless of fuel.
I wasn't acusing you of anything either all I'm saying is that when results are acheived using race fuel and then posted up its good form to say that race fuel was used.
As Shaun says, then you've been totally transparent about it.
As I said before though, excellent results regardless of fuel.
18 October 2009, 12:38 PM
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Martyn just posted a 10.96.
Sorry! just amended to say this is on RACE fuel, although he didn't have the chicken tikka sandwich today, a weight saving measure I believe.
Sorry! just amended to say this is on RACE fuel, although he didn't have the chicken tikka sandwich today, a weight saving measure I believe.
Last edited by Alan Jeffery; 18 October 2009 at 01:16 PM. Reason: Amended in case of misrepresentation