Blob Wagon Suspension.
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Blob Wagon Suspension.
Looking for some suggestions for a good suspension setup for my wagon.
Should I go for KYB shocks with some decent springs or go for coilovers? If so, which?
Also what else? ARBs? ALK?
For me handling is more important than comfort.
Having said that, I'd prefer not to go ridiculously hard and create a spine breaker, it's a fast road car, will very rarely see a track, a nice medium would be ideal.
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Should I go for KYB shocks with some decent springs or go for coilovers? If so, which?
Also what else? ARBs? ALK?
For me handling is more important than comfort.
Having said that, I'd prefer not to go ridiculously hard and create a spine breaker, it's a fast road car, will very rarely see a track, a nice medium would be ideal.
TIA
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On my 03 blobeye wagon I have rear 24mm ARB, CDF droplinks, rear whiteline strutbrace, front whiteline droplinks and ALK, front Perrin strutbrace. These all worked for me, particularily in the rear as the wagon has quite a bit of roll cornering on the standard shocks and springs. For the shocks/springs I found some low mileage STI Blobeye one'a with Prodrive springs and put in front camber bolts to give a bit more camber, the wagon is more limited than the saloon there (I think that's correct)
BC coilovers are good value and have a range of weightings,don't know about KYB range but I did replace my standard rears back along an they were good quality.
hope this helps
Trev
BC coilovers are good value and have a range of weightings,don't know about KYB range but I did replace my standard rears back along an they were good quality.
hope this helps
Trev
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Cheers Trev.
I'm thinking pretty much the same as you've said, I was considering the STI setup but with the knock problems I'll probably go down the BC route.
I'm thinking pretty much the same as you've said, I was considering the STI setup but with the knock problems I'll probably go down the BC route.
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I`ve got Eibach springs on standard shocks, and am about to add alloy droplinks, rear 22 arb, roll centre kit, and steering rack bushes, next week. Then it will be kyb`s and a front arb if necessary. Wheel alignment at the Wheel Alignment Center in Southampton; I used to visit them way back when they first started making the Supertracker system; they were very good back then so I am expecting great things !
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Depends I usually recommend coilovers when it comes to handling,but with right springs and right shocks handling can be great too on the shocks
On wagon I would go with ARB's like front and rear(22mm at front and 24mm at rear,but you can go at rear with adjustable 22mm) with ALK and Roll Centre/Bump Steer kit which I recommend on any lowered car,this will transform ride on lowered cars plus camber bolts at front and rear
If shocks then I would have look on KYB AGX with Eibach springs which should helps,if its budget then from USA I would go with Tokico shocks and Swift springs
Good wheel alignment is must,without this you will be still in where are you now
Coilovers really depends on more factors,but usually coilovers are harder than springs,many people love their BC,some love the MeisterR and many prefer Racing Logic,hard to say,my recommendation is ask yours friends who running coilovers for ride,this can make yours mind
Jura
Depends I usually recommend coilovers when it comes to handling,but with right springs and right shocks handling can be great too on the shocks
On wagon I would go with ARB's like front and rear(22mm at front and 24mm at rear,but you can go at rear with adjustable 22mm) with ALK and Roll Centre/Bump Steer kit which I recommend on any lowered car,this will transform ride on lowered cars plus camber bolts at front and rear
If shocks then I would have look on KYB AGX with Eibach springs which should helps,if its budget then from USA I would go with Tokico shocks and Swift springs
Good wheel alignment is must,without this you will be still in where are you now
Coilovers really depends on more factors,but usually coilovers are harder than springs,many people love their BC,some love the MeisterR and many prefer Racing Logic,hard to say,my recommendation is ask yours friends who running coilovers for ride,this can make yours mind
Jura
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Thanks Jura
As it will only ever be a fast road DD, I was considering these:
http://www.camskill.co.uk/m10b905s27...03_on_Excl_STi
http://www.camskill.co.uk/m10b88s271...003_to_12_2004
As it will only ever be a fast road DD, I was considering these:
http://www.camskill.co.uk/m10b905s27...03_on_Excl_STi
http://www.camskill.co.uk/m10b88s271...003_to_12_2004
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Have look and search for Bilstein shocks from classic,they should fit on yours and you will need reuse yours new age top mounts
Those people mostly recommend
I've tried above KYB Excel G and I quite like them,they're not so harsh etc,just right and if budget allow I would go with KYB AGX,they're usually are for Classic,but can be used too on New age with New age top mounts
Jura
Have look and search for Bilstein shocks from classic,they should fit on yours and you will need reuse yours new age top mounts
Those people mostly recommend
I've tried above KYB Excel G and I quite like them,they're not so harsh etc,just right and if budget allow I would go with KYB AGX,they're usually are for Classic,but can be used too on New age with New age top mounts
Jura
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It depends on what you are after but coilovers does provide a lot more initial control over the suspension.
You may not adjust the suspension all the time, but having the adjustment there mean you can dial in your preference where otherwise you would of been stuck with whatever you get out of the box.
Coilovers doesn't need to be harsh either, it is a misconception that ride with coilovers for a long time as many owners buy racing coilovers and use it on the road. (mostly commonly using expensive JDM brands).
A good setup will allow compliant ride quality for fast road usage on softer damper setting, and better steering / chassis response on occasional track days on stiffer damper setting.
This is where adjustable damper really accel compare to non-adjustable as you are able to get best of both world using the adjustments, versus being stuck in the middle with non-adjustable where the suspension is nether comfortable or stiff.
But it does depends on your budget and what you are after.
Jerrick
You may not adjust the suspension all the time, but having the adjustment there mean you can dial in your preference where otherwise you would of been stuck with whatever you get out of the box.
Coilovers doesn't need to be harsh either, it is a misconception that ride with coilovers for a long time as many owners buy racing coilovers and use it on the road. (mostly commonly using expensive JDM brands).
A good setup will allow compliant ride quality for fast road usage on softer damper setting, and better steering / chassis response on occasional track days on stiffer damper setting.
This is where adjustable damper really accel compare to non-adjustable as you are able to get best of both world using the adjustments, versus being stuck in the middle with non-adjustable where the suspension is nether comfortable or stiff.
But it does depends on your budget and what you are after.
Jerrick
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