STI Pink Suspension
11 November 2013, 07:24 PM
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STI Pink Suspension
I currently have STI Pink suspension with tein springs, not really fussed on them, there a bit on the hard side!! Any suggestions for something for road use and a bit more comfort? 
12 November 2013, 06:23 PM
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Nice pics there in your gallery. I like the isolated cold air feed arrangement, what is it, and have you any more pics of it?
Your car does look as if it's sitting a little low to me - are they S-Tech springs you have fitted? I know your car looks great at that height, but handling & suspension action suffers greatly on the Impreza with small differences in height. Theere will only be 5mm difference in the height. You will get the benefit of more bump travel too, as at the moment at that height you will almost certainly be engaging the bump stops when cornering, possibly getting a crashy ride?
Your car does look as if it's sitting a little low to me - are they S-Tech springs you have fitted? I know your car looks great at that height, but handling & suspension action suffers greatly on the Impreza with small differences in height. Theere will only be 5mm difference in the height. You will get the benefit of more bump travel too, as at the moment at that height you will almost certainly be engaging the bump stops when cornering, possibly getting a crashy ride?
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12 November 2013, 06:36 PM
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Will post some pics of the cold feed up, feeds directly in to my custom Spec-R air box 
Yeah have the S-tech springs fitted bumpy!
I'm stripping down all the suspension this month to paint the struts as the paint is all flaking, looking to have some whiteline goodies fitted. What's your recommendations? ARB, drop links, anti lift kit?? Cheers
Yeah have the S-tech springs fitted bumpy!
I'm stripping down all the suspension this month to paint the struts as the paint is all flaking, looking to have some whiteline goodies fitted. What's your recommendations? ARB, drop links, anti lift kit?? Cheers
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12 November 2013, 07:04 PM
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Thanks, be interested to see that. Looks totally isolated from the rest of the bay which is always difficult unless going inner wing, but yours keeps a short feed line
You should like the improvement alot going from S-Techs to P1's. They give a lovely 'float' over crappy roads. Your in S Wales aren't you, so some of the roads are better than other parts of the UK (Midlands especially), but you still see some bad ones
The S-techs over lower the car and create negative, bad handling. How is the car at the moment apart from crashy? Does it understeer etc?
Do you have any suspension mods at the moment? Also, do you still have those Toyo's fitted (in your pic)?
You should like the improvement alot going from S-Techs to P1's. They give a lovely 'float' over crappy roads. Your in S Wales aren't you, so some of the roads are better than other parts of the UK (Midlands especially), but you still see some bad ones
The S-techs over lower the car and create negative, bad handling. How is the car at the moment apart from crashy? Does it understeer etc?
Do you have any suspension mods at the moment? Also, do you still have those Toyo's fitted (in your pic)?
12 November 2013, 07:46 PM
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Yeah from South Wales the roads are crap in my area.
The car does understeer yeah doesn't feel to good. No other suspension mods everything else is OEM.
I have eagle F1 tyres at the moment.
The car does understeer yeah doesn't feel to good. No other suspension mods everything else is OEM.
I have eagle F1 tyres at the moment.
12 November 2013, 08:02 PM
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The root cause of the understeer is the over-lowering. This has put the front wishbones into a bad part of the camber curve. This means under suspension compression you're losing any negative camber you have and getting positive, reducing front grip.
The other important over-lowering issue happening is weight transfer mid-corner and excessive front roll. This is because the roll centre (RC) has been drastically effected from the lowering causing MORE roll than when the car was OE height, although the car has lowered.
It may take a while to source a set of P1 springs, so you would benefit the most at the moment from stiffening rear roll resistance to hold up the front (and rear), increasing overall grip & reducing front roll & understeer
Depending on budget, and as you're planning to paint up stuff, a RC correction kit would be next, again reducing understeer. You're not going to stop the crashy ride though until you get more suspension travel and stiffer springs (the Teins are too soft), and the more grip you're going to have, the more you might encounter higher speed compressions/holes etc
If the car is more of a daily driver a 22mm adjustable rear arb would probably be enough, but my personal preference is 24 rear 22 front
The other important over-lowering issue happening is weight transfer mid-corner and excessive front roll. This is because the roll centre (RC) has been drastically effected from the lowering causing MORE roll than when the car was OE height, although the car has lowered.
It may take a while to source a set of P1 springs, so you would benefit the most at the moment from stiffening rear roll resistance to hold up the front (and rear), increasing overall grip & reducing front roll & understeer
Depending on budget, and as you're planning to paint up stuff, a RC correction kit would be next, again reducing understeer. You're not going to stop the crashy ride though until you get more suspension travel and stiffer springs (the Teins are too soft), and the more grip you're going to have, the more you might encounter higher speed compressions/holes etc
If the car is more of a daily driver a 22mm adjustable rear arb would probably be enough, but my personal preference is 24 rear 22 front
12 November 2013, 08:29 PM
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Bonesetter what would you say if I said "Eibach" would that spring option be something in a similar area to the P1 variant.
Incidentally I'm running type r struts and springs on my RA.
Incidentally I'm running type r struts and springs on my RA.
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12 November 2013, 08:55 PM
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But sadly the Eibach offerings around now - the likes of the Pro & Pro Kit Sport are in the same camp as the Tein's - too soft, poor progression & lower the car too much
I had them fitted on my Type R when I bought her, and also they were fitted to a Fabia VRS I bought. They produced the same crashy, bouncy ride on both cars
There was a glimmer of hope some time back when the lads on P1 forum were discussing a group buy for a new batch of P1 springs
Here's the link
Eibach need a minimum order of 200 sets (each 'set' being 4 individual springs) to go ahead. I telephoned them a coup[le of years back asking them and 'Stockcar' on P1 forum (a dealer) has been discussing the same as he deals directly with Eibach
I thought 200 sets would sell easily, to interested people (here) and the rest to dealers for stock, but although this group buy has been talked over on the P1 forum, it hasn't been mentioned here
12 November 2013, 09:17 PM
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That's interesting and explains why I pick up comments about Eibachs not being so good these days, I had wondered why that was as they had always been considered a top class spring a while back and not so much now.
Alyn "stockcar" is on here as an advertiser AS Performance
That's something I have not heard about having shall I say a re manufacture of an existing design, very novel idea indeed
Alyn "stockcar" is on here as an advertiser AS Performance
That's something I have not heard about having shall I say a re manufacture of an existing design, very novel idea indeed
what would be by next best option to replace the teins with?
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