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Old 02 June 2012, 09:26 AM
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Default Suspension advice, please

I should be getting some bc coilovers soon and want to upgrade some other stuff whilst i'm in there. I don't have the budget left over for all the bits but which should i prioritize out of this lot:

Front ARB
Roll centre correction kit
Front drop links (are these the same as above?)
Anti-lift kit
Camber bolts

Car is a my05 wrx running 355bhp that does mostly weekends and track days.
Currently on standard suspension with whiteline rear arb and drop links and 17" sticky track tyres
Old 02 June 2012, 06:29 PM
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everyone must be out celebrating the jubilee then!
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Old 02 June 2012, 06:56 PM
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I would certainly get a front ARB and an Anti lift kit. If you can't afford both then get the ALK, as I'm pretty sure you'll need alignment doing after fitting one so best to have it done when fitting the coilovers.

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Anti Lift, the roll center kit and possibly camber bolts prior to geometry setup. The camber bolts are not essential but are nice to have for me I would leave the camber bolts till you next have a geometry setup, mine is usually done annually unless I spot a problem. Fit the ARB and the drop links together but this will not require a geometry setup.
I have on my bugeye Tein flex, whitline ARB,ALK,camber bolts,rear subframe lock and roll centre kit. All bushes have been replaced with powerflex items. This is a good idea but costly.

Alternative option is to get a big box, buy the items as and when you can afford. Have a mad weekend fitting them all when you are in a position to get the geometry done.

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cheers guys.
I was leaning towards the roll centre kit as i will be dropping the ride height but the point of the coilovers is to improve handling not make it worse.

I think i'll get that and the ALK cos like you said the arb won't need another geometry.
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Hi there

Personally i would fit everything in one go before you go on the wheel alignment.On our wagon we have this: Eibach Front and rear ARB,WL Roll centre kit,CDF Solid droplinks at front,WL ALK,STi alloy arms,Hardrace Adjustable lateral links with adjustable rear droplinks,front camber bolts(we are running 245/40 ZR18 or 255/45 ZR17),4point underbrace,HSD HR coilovers

Wheel alignment can transform your car to the best car,but wrong wheel alignment can be just pain on the track or drag,we are tried several setups,now we are very happy and car now handle amazingly well

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I have recently had a great geometry setup done and it has made a big difference, especially on track.
Eventually i'd like all the bits you mention jura but i'd rather get some of it on with the coilovers whilst i save up for the rest; instead of having a cardboard box in my living room that has better suspension than my car.
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Nick I would swap your rear 22mm arb for a 24mm one, and fit a 22mm front one, also what spring rates are you going for on the BC's?
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Originally Posted by IainMilford
Nick I would swap your rear 22mm arb for a 24mm one, and fit a 22mm front one, also what spring rates are you going for on the BC's?

5/4 seems to be the popular choice for spring rate.
Is your rear arb 24mm, iain? I seem to leave my 22mm on the stiffest setting all the time so i could probably go stiffer, especially if i get a front arb.

I'm looking forward to really sorting the handling as i don't plan on any more power increases.
I suppose i could mess around with arbs and drop links whenever and i'll get the alk and the roll centre kit fitted with the coilys for geometry.

It'd be nice to feel the difference each part makes as its fitted.
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yes my rear arb is a 24mm, i have found that the middle setting works best with my current setup. If it were me i'd go a little stiffer on the springs, some cars i have seen on bc's with a 5/4 spring rate look a bit soft in the corners, but then you sacrifice road comfort
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Originally Posted by IainMilford
yes my rear arb is a 24mm, i have found that the middle setting works best with my current setup. If it were me i'd go a little stiffer on the springs, some cars i have seen on bc's with a 5/4 spring rate look a bit soft in the corners, but then you sacrifice road comfort
Ideally i would like to take a ride in a scoob with a harder spring rate and decide if i could live with it.
Wonder if anyone in bbs has that?
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rudi has inverted bc coilovers Nick,8/6 i believe,its hard as nails on it softest settings lol

obviously his is a classic though so difficult to judge.

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Mine are 5/6 and are fine for roads.
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Originally Posted by classicgc8
rudi has inverted bc coilovers Nick,8/6 i believe,its hard as nails on it softest settings lol

obviously his is a classic though so difficult to judge.
Might have to ask for a ride in his at the next meet then, Dave.
I want it fairly track focussed but i don't want it to be painful to drive to the shops if need be
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Thread resurrection, anyone running 7/4 spring rates? Would these be compliant on uk roads? This is what the new HSD DT range comes in and I am tempted.
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7/4 seems quite a big difference between the front and rear, how would that effect the balance i wonder
Old 06 July 2012, 08:19 AM
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I've taken the advice of Nick @ Advanced automotive and gone for a 5/4 spring rate for a newage with arbs/droplinks/alk/etc that will handle well on the track but not be painful to drive on the road.
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