Advice wanted for Adjustable ARB's Front & Rear
First of all which hole is the hard setting on the front whiteline 22mm adjustable ARB the hole closest to the bulk head or to the front of the car?
Secondly what would you advise to get a good balance between the front and rear? both being 22mm whiteline adjustables...
Cheers
Gaz
Secondly what would you advise to get a good balance between the front and rear? both being 22mm whiteline adjustables...
Cheers
Gaz
I would agree with the above.
My only proviso is it is down to 'taste'; how a car behaves can be frightening or entertaining to different people...
Generally the rear stifness needs to be greater than the front, but alignment and other features all have an effect, ie tyre pressures.
Start soft, get too hard, ease back would be my approach, but i scare easy.
Graham
My only proviso is it is down to 'taste'; how a car behaves can be frightening or entertaining to different people...
Generally the rear stifness needs to be greater than the front, but alignment and other features all have an effect, ie tyre pressures.
Start soft, get too hard, ease back would be my approach, but i scare easy.
Graham
The problem I'm having is that the front end feels too light and I think its because I might have it on the hard setting and the rear on the middle setting... BUT
My front bar only has two holes and they do not go in a row down like the rear but are next to each other one like OO and I dont know which hole is the stiff one and which is the softer one. Closest to the front of the car or closest to the rear???
I've got time off tmoz to change the set up and could do with knowing which one is which... if it turns out the front is in the hardest I might just put the rear on the hardest to comprimise it anyway.
Cheers again,
Gaz
My front bar only has two holes and they do not go in a row down like the rear but are next to each other one like OO and I dont know which hole is the stiff one and which is the softer one. Closest to the front of the car or closest to the rear???
I've got time off tmoz to change the set up and could do with knowing which one is which... if it turns out the front is in the hardest I might just put the rear on the hardest to comprimise it anyway.
Cheers again,
Gaz
OK, fully understand.
The front is confusing, the rear easy but the thinking is the same for both.
Front:
Picture in your mind the car in side elevation, the front of the car pointing to the left, and the boot over to the right.
The brackets used to hold the bar and the bushes are mounted on the front crossmember, and the end of the roll bar goes under the steering arms and back up. The drop links bolt through the hole in the bar. Now; using your ' 00' view of the 2 holes, the hole on the left is the Hardest setting, and the hole on the right is the soft setting.
Similarly, the rear bar has 3 holes: '0 0 0'
Again, using the imaginary picture of the car, the hole on the left is the soft setting , and the hole on the far right the hardest.
To start with set the front bar on soft, and the rear bar also soft. Drive it carefully to see how it feels to you.
Then:
Leave the front on soft and put the rear on the middle hole, again, drive the car.
Finally try the rear on the hardest (right-hand) hole and carefully drive the car.
Use the same 2 or 3 mile country road every time so to keep something consistant.
It takes a bit of time all this, but it is worth it.
I am sorry if I appear perhaps to dumb-down the process, but I don't know how much you know about the subject.
Graham
The front is confusing, the rear easy but the thinking is the same for both.
Front:
Picture in your mind the car in side elevation, the front of the car pointing to the left, and the boot over to the right.
The brackets used to hold the bar and the bushes are mounted on the front crossmember, and the end of the roll bar goes under the steering arms and back up. The drop links bolt through the hole in the bar. Now; using your ' 00' view of the 2 holes, the hole on the left is the Hardest setting, and the hole on the right is the soft setting.
Similarly, the rear bar has 3 holes: '0 0 0'
Again, using the imaginary picture of the car, the hole on the left is the soft setting , and the hole on the far right the hardest.
To start with set the front bar on soft, and the rear bar also soft. Drive it carefully to see how it feels to you.
Then:
Leave the front on soft and put the rear on the middle hole, again, drive the car.
Finally try the rear on the hardest (right-hand) hole and carefully drive the car.
Use the same 2 or 3 mile country road every time so to keep something consistant.
It takes a bit of time all this, but it is worth it.
I am sorry if I appear perhaps to dumb-down the process, but I don't know how much you know about the subject.
Graham
Last edited by 911; Feb 20, 2007 at 06:28 PM.
Cheers Graham I knew you'd be the one to help me out.
I think my front bar is in soft hole and the rear is in the middle but the front still feels light and I did get some understeer in the wet so I may dare to harden up the rear. I will also be sure to check the tyre pressures as I have just had a set of Toyo T1-S's fitted which might have too high pressure in them.
I do know abit about suspension as I am in college and have done alot on it but this doesnt cover setting it up for sports cars... so I am still trying to learn that myself. I will be doing wheel allignment shortly on the colleges 4wheel allignment bay after having ago on the colleges toyota corrola saloon so no doubt will be after opinions for the best allignment set up.
Then on to the colleges 4wheel drive dyno rated upto 500bhp... aint I lucky I can use these facilities.
Thanks Again,
Gaz
I think my front bar is in soft hole and the rear is in the middle but the front still feels light and I did get some understeer in the wet so I may dare to harden up the rear. I will also be sure to check the tyre pressures as I have just had a set of Toyo T1-S's fitted which might have too high pressure in them.
I do know abit about suspension as I am in college and have done alot on it but this doesnt cover setting it up for sports cars... so I am still trying to learn that myself. I will be doing wheel allignment shortly on the colleges 4wheel allignment bay after having ago on the colleges toyota corrola saloon so no doubt will be after opinions for the best allignment set up.
Then on to the colleges 4wheel drive dyno rated upto 500bhp... aint I lucky I can use these facilities.
Thanks Again,
Gaz
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Ive just done tyre pressures and the front and rear were on 32-33psi so I have taken some out to what you suggested.
I am still confused which holes which on the bars... going from what you said the holes looks like like this 00____000 two on the front three on the rear and from what you said before the front left is the hardest...but the rear left one is the softest can you confirm thats right? Mine currecntly looks like 00____000
so is the front the opposite to the rear i.e. left on the front is hardest right on the rear is hardest?? please confirm...
Thanks
Gaz
I am still confused which holes which on the bars... going from what you said the holes looks like like this 00____000 two on the front three on the rear and from what you said before the front left is the hardest...but the rear left one is the softest can you confirm thats right? Mine currecntly looks like 00____000
so is the front the opposite to the rear i.e. left on the front is hardest right on the rear is hardest?? please confirm...
Thanks
Gaz
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The hole that is furthest from the ARB mounting points is the weakest - does that help? 
Also how new are the tyres? make sure they are worn in - not only do you have to waer off the new tyre 'sheen' you get, but the tyre has to wear to your camber settings too, I'd give it at least a couple of hundred miles.

Also how new are the tyres? make sure they are worn in - not only do you have to waer off the new tyre 'sheen' you get, but the tyre has to wear to your camber settings too, I'd give it at least a couple of hundred miles.
Ahh Yeah That make sense
Good point about the tyres too... they are brand new only done about 50mile, think I will leave my settings for now then as they are on the right ones that I wanted to try first.
Edit 2posts back : Tyres are Toyo T1-R's not S's as I stated earlier, cant remember which ones are the good ones though, ahh well
Thanks Again, will take it out for a drive in a min to see if putting the right pressures have helped any too.
Gaz
Good point about the tyres too... they are brand new only done about 50mile, think I will leave my settings for now then as they are on the right ones that I wanted to try first.
Edit 2posts back : Tyres are Toyo T1-R's not S's as I stated earlier, cant remember which ones are the good ones though, ahh well
Thanks Again, will take it out for a drive in a min to see if putting the right pressures have helped any too.
Gaz
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