Geometery and alignement settings
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Geometery and alignement settings
I have just booked the car in for geometery and alignment at the local Subaru dealer..
I asked him if they could put the Prodrive settings on the car...(Hoping they would ring up Subaru/Prodrive for the settings).
He claimed that there was no such thing, they don't have different settings when they do the PPP he claims..
I'm sure he's wrong...but didn't want to have an argument with them about it (They are a new dealership)
So does anyone have the Standard settings and the prodrive settings for a Blobeye MY03 Impreza...
To see if they are actually different...and if they are I will let him know when they do the car next week.
Cheers Guys.
Muddy
I asked him if they could put the Prodrive settings on the car...(Hoping they would ring up Subaru/Prodrive for the settings).
He claimed that there was no such thing, they don't have different settings when they do the PPP he claims..
I'm sure he's wrong...but didn't want to have an argument with them about it (They are a new dealership)
So does anyone have the Standard settings and the prodrive settings for a Blobeye MY03 Impreza...
To see if they are actually different...and if they are I will let him know when they do the car next week.
Cheers Guys.
Muddy
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These are the MY03 STI "Prodrive Spring" settings.
They are different for the non-sti, but my point is that it is the fitting of the Prodrive springs where they reset the geometry, not the fitting of the PPP.
Standard settings: -
Front Camber -0°30’ (±0°45’)
Front Toe 0±3 mm (0±0.12 in) Each toe angle: ±0°07’30”
Rear Toe 0±3 mm (0±0.12 in) Each toe angle: ±0°09’
a. Set the tyre pressures to:
i. Front 2.3 bar (33psi)
ii. Rear 2.1 bar (31psi)
b. Settle the suspension by driving a few miles on the road
c. Set the geometry to:
i. Front Camber -1°15’ (-1.25°)
ii. Front Toe Total 0°00’ (0.00°)
iii.Rear Toe 0°06’ (0.1°) per wheel toe in [0°12’ (0.2°) total toe in]
They are different for the non-sti, but my point is that it is the fitting of the Prodrive springs where they reset the geometry, not the fitting of the PPP.
Standard settings: -
Front Camber -0°30’ (±0°45’)
Front Toe 0±3 mm (0±0.12 in) Each toe angle: ±0°07’30”
Rear Toe 0±3 mm (0±0.12 in) Each toe angle: ±0°09’
a. Set the tyre pressures to:
i. Front 2.3 bar (33psi)
ii. Rear 2.1 bar (31psi)
b. Settle the suspension by driving a few miles on the road
c. Set the geometry to:
i. Front Camber -1°15’ (-1.25°)
ii. Front Toe Total 0°00’ (0.00°)
iii.Rear Toe 0°06’ (0.1°) per wheel toe in [0°12’ (0.2°) total toe in]
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Originally Posted by muddy
He claimed that there was no such thing, they don't have different settings when they do the PPP he claims..
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There was a recent thread about excessive tyre wear using the P'drive camber settings on the front, must admit looked at mine and they were getting really ragged on the inner edges, so I've gone to -1o 05 to save the tyres..
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I had mine set up on friday by Stuart Tams who sets up the geometry for each new chassis design for Williams F1. He's almost fully retired now apart from his F1 work, and it was a pure fluke that I got him to do mine.
He punched a few holes in those Prodrive settings when I asked him to go to them, and so I asked him to base his best possible set-up for my car on them using his expertise. He did explain what was wrong, but half way through with all the talk of minutes, degrees, deflection, camber, castor and God knows what else, my eyes glazed over and I started nodding
The final set-up was based on the Prodrive figures quoted here, but takes into account the average road camber in the UK and the fact that I tend to be on my own in the car, meaning there is approx 100kg extra to the right of the COG. It was eye opning how much the suspension deflects with just the weight of the driver, and very few alignment specialists will ever set it up with the driver in place.
The car now feels like it is on rails, sticky rails, magnetic sticky rails With Scalextric tabs in slots in the road just to make sure
He punched a few holes in those Prodrive settings when I asked him to go to them, and so I asked him to base his best possible set-up for my car on them using his expertise. He did explain what was wrong, but half way through with all the talk of minutes, degrees, deflection, camber, castor and God knows what else, my eyes glazed over and I started nodding
The final set-up was based on the Prodrive figures quoted here, but takes into account the average road camber in the UK and the fact that I tend to be on my own in the car, meaning there is approx 100kg extra to the right of the COG. It was eye opning how much the suspension deflects with just the weight of the driver, and very few alignment specialists will ever set it up with the driver in place.
The car now feels like it is on rails, sticky rails, magnetic sticky rails With Scalextric tabs in slots in the road just to make sure
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Cheers Fellas.
Subaru dealer couldn't do it as car is too low for their equipment..
Will shop around.. likely to be scoobyclinic..
Thanks
Muddy
Subaru dealer couldn't do it as car is too low for their equipment..
Will shop around.. likely to be scoobyclinic..
Thanks
Muddy
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