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Old 14 October 2005, 08:34 PM
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I had the rear offside shock replaced yesterday. Should the dealer have done an alignment after replacing the shock?

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Old 15 October 2005, 03:49 AM
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There is no camber adjustment on the back, so just replacing the strut should not need alignment imho.

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Old 15 October 2005, 07:56 AM
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You should change dampers as pairs.
You could get away without a re-alignment.
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Cheers lads. The dealer explained they could get away with replacing one shock because the other is only a year old. Do I need to take this up with them?
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And if in that year it has done 20K miles....or 2000 over-the-farm miles, the new one will not be the same 'condition'
Have a roadside crunch and the Bill see's the repair, i bet the insurance engineer will say something, even 'bu@@er-off'.

It is a high performance car, and the garage should repair properly. (IMHO)
Good luck,
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And if in that year it has done 20K miles....or 2000 over-the-farm miles, the new one will not be the same 'condition'
Have a roadside crunch and the Bill see's the repair, i bet the insurance engineer will say something, even 'bu@@er-off'.

It is a high performance car, and the garage should repair properly. (IMHO)
Good luck,
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I'm taking no chances. I'll mention insurances issues if they try and get out of replacing the other.

Cheers for the advice.

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911, I spoke with the dealer today who said he could understand where I was coming from, but said Subaru would only warrant faulty parts and the other shock is not faulty.

I phoned up GM and spoke to customer service, who said there would be no need to replace as the dampening rate on a one year old part would be the same as a brand new part. He claimed the dealer would have measured the axle to wheel arch height of both sides and replaced the nearside shock if the two heights were out of tolerence. He said if I wanted piece of mind, I could measure it my self and report the figures back if they were significantly different.

Would be great to hear from others with an 04 STI, who had shock problems. Did the dealer swap both of yours, or only one?

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Old 18 October 2005, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Anders_WR1
911, I spoke with the dealer today who said he could understand where I was coming from, but said Subaru would only warrant faulty parts and the other shock is not faulty.

I phoned up GM and spoke to customer service, who said there would be no need to replace as the dampening rate on a one year old part would be the same as a brand new part. He claimed the dealer would have measured the axle to wheel arch height of both sides and replaced the nearside shock if the two heights were out of tolerence. He said if I wanted piece of mind, I could measure it my self and report the figures back if they were significantly different.

Would be great to hear from others with an 04 STI, who had shock problems. Did the dealer swap both of yours, or only one?

Cheers

Anders
For starters shock absorbers do not have anything to do with ride height.
My dealer changed the pair but then I had done 21,000 miles, how many miles on your shocks?
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Originally Posted by davedipster
For starters shock absorbers do not have anything to do with ride height.
My dealer changed the pair but then I had done 21,000 miles, how many miles on your shocks?
25k (10K too many for a one year old!)
Old 18 October 2005, 10:55 PM
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As above. Terminology:
Shock absorber is the spring which controls the ride height.
Damper stops the spring occillating as it recovers after a change in road surface, ie hitting a pot hole.

I'm sticking to my line.

Dampers should be changed in axle pairs. That is just good engineering sense.
Even the Haynes manuals say that too!

Graham.
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I used to work for volvo, didnt matter how many miles the car had done (upto 60k) if a shocker needed to be replaced under warranty, only the faulty part would be replaced. AFAIK a shocker either works or doesnt, i.e when the damping valve is knackered, and in which case its easily identified by bouncing a corner of the car and seeing how quickly it settles. I doubt very much you'll get any manufacturer willing to replace any unrequired parts!
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"Shock absorber is the spring which controls the ride height."

Eh? The shock absorber is the damper, the terms are synonymous and they don't control the ride height.
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Duncan, where do you get your alignment done?
Old 19 October 2005, 01:55 PM
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Job Geevers @ Automotive Services in Dunfermline. If you have coil-overs he can also do corner weighting.

I think maybe Greersport in Kilbirnie can do it also but havent tried them.
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Cheers bud. Have tried a couple places, inc Star, but not tried them.

Greersport i never got on terribly well with, but i know a few who use them.
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Originally Posted by 911
As above. Terminology:
Shock absorber is the spring which controls the ride height.
Damper stops the spring occillating as it recovers after a change in road surface, ie hitting a pot hole.

I'm sticking to my line.

Dampers should be changed in axle pairs. That is just good engineering sense.
Even the Haynes manuals say that too!

Graham.
Think I'll phone around a few dealers in the London area for a few opinions. I wonder what Mike Wood's opinion would be? Calling Mike...
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