Improved cornering - Bumsteer or Geometry set up
07 February 2003, 08:25 PM
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My scoob has the classic problem of sometimes tramlining under braking and a tendancy to understeer.
It obviously could be improved. If I went to Powerstation or TSL respectively things would be improved and the car would have less tendancy to understeer.
I am used to the car understeering. Slipery roads yesterday big B/A road run across Sussex and Hants. I was a joy to control the car on the trottle in bends lifting off slightly and gently putting power down to combat the understear.
My questions are -
If I get the car modified will it be as much fun/challenge to pilot down a road?
Will it put it into a hedge backwards, as I am so used to it understeering - Can you get that nice trottle control through bends - will it still understeer as a default (It would obviously take more for it to do this as the car will be set up better) if you went a little too quick into/though a bend?
What are your votes 1. Powerstation Bumpsteer mod? 2. TSL Geometery settings? 3. or leave it alone?
Would be interested in peoples views who have had handlng mods done?
Bets wishes
Steve
It obviously could be improved. If I went to Powerstation or TSL respectively things would be improved and the car would have less tendancy to understeer.
I am used to the car understeering. Slipery roads yesterday big B/A road run across Sussex and Hants. I was a joy to control the car on the trottle in bends lifting off slightly and gently putting power down to combat the understear.
My questions are -
If I get the car modified will it be as much fun/challenge to pilot down a road?
Will it put it into a hedge backwards, as I am so used to it understeering - Can you get that nice trottle control through bends - will it still understeer as a default (It would obviously take more for it to do this as the car will be set up better) if you went a little too quick into/though a bend?
What are your votes 1. Powerstation Bumpsteer mod? 2. TSL Geometery settings? 3. or leave it alone?
Would be interested in peoples views who have had handlng mods done?
Bets wishes
Steve
07 February 2003, 08:44 PM
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Hello Steve
I haven't had the bump steer done as my car doesn't seem to suffer tramlining under braking, and i feel its extrememly stable on rough country roads at speed.
i have however had the anti lift mod done and a 4 wheel geometery done. Before these mods it would suffer sevre understeer in the wet to the point it was one of the slowest cars i've owned round tight 2nd gear bends. In the dry it would still understeer and lifting off would be a pointless exercise, it made the car unpredicatable, i couldn't be sure the back end would step out to tuck the nose back in, and if it did there was no feel through the steering as to what was actually going ... i learnt to just go in slow and out fast.
Now though it feels like a differnt car, the front end grip has improved massively, even at the limit in the wet its almost neutral in a corner, and lifting off now steps the backout in such a controlled manner its actually fun, where before it was scary!!
The steering has more feel around the straight ahead postion which i think is down to the "anti lift", whatever that means.
I haven't had the bump steer done as my car doesn't seem to suffer tramlining under braking, and i feel its extrememly stable on rough country roads at speed.
i have however had the anti lift mod done and a 4 wheel geometery done. Before these mods it would suffer sevre understeer in the wet to the point it was one of the slowest cars i've owned round tight 2nd gear bends. In the dry it would still understeer and lifting off would be a pointless exercise, it made the car unpredicatable, i couldn't be sure the back end would step out to tuck the nose back in, and if it did there was no feel through the steering as to what was actually going ... i learnt to just go in slow and out fast.
Now though it feels like a differnt car, the front end grip has improved massively, even at the limit in the wet its almost neutral in a corner, and lifting off now steps the backout in such a controlled manner its actually fun, where before it was scary!!
The steering has more feel around the straight ahead postion which i think is down to the "anti lift", whatever that means.
07 February 2003, 11:22 PM
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I had my MY02 WRX in at Powerstation today. Had Eibach's and geometry done and it has made my Scoob go from ok to fantastic. It's now much more confident around the bends and the whole thing feels so much more stable and together. For just over 300 quid I reckon its great value.
Just these two changes have improved the car so much and the ability to access the power means that it also feels faster - a big thumbs up!
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Mike
Just these two changes have improved the car so much and the ability to access the power means that it also feels faster - a big thumbs up!
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Mike
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08 February 2003, 08:57 AM
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Go to Powerstation for Bump steer, Anti lift kit & rear drop links, made my STI 3 a joy to drive.
Tramlining can also be caused by tyres, I ditched my SO3's in favour of Toyos & that helped a lot although this was pre the Powerstation mods.
Tramlining can also be caused by tyres, I ditched my SO3's in favour of Toyos & that helped a lot although this was pre the Powerstation mods.
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