Ruined my car, advice please
07 July 2016, 11:00 AM
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Ruined my car, advice please
I have a widetrack blob, had the clunking rear struts, so decided to do some handling mods.
I have fitted coilovers, rear 24mm arb on the middle setting (with the stout mounts), standard front arb, adjusable drop links all round, super pro roll centre kit, car is also lowered.
I have not had the geometry done yet, but couldnt wait to go for a spin and feel the changes. I am vey dissappointed as my car is ruined
I have the coilvers on 12 clicks from soft all round, with 5mm of pre load all round, the car is not taking bumps at all. It actually feels like the car is hitting bumps then slipping or jumping sideways, lots of squirming around.
The car is absolutley rock solid, there doesnt seem to be any compliance what so ever. It feels dangerous.
Will the geometry sort this out once its done or am I stuck with the worst handling car I have ever driven?
Have I put too much pre load on the coilovers?
Can anybody advise as to what I may have done wrong? My car is ruined
I have fitted coilovers, rear 24mm arb on the middle setting (with the stout mounts), standard front arb, adjusable drop links all round, super pro roll centre kit, car is also lowered.
I have not had the geometry done yet, but couldnt wait to go for a spin and feel the changes. I am vey dissappointed as my car is ruined
I have the coilvers on 12 clicks from soft all round, with 5mm of pre load all round, the car is not taking bumps at all. It actually feels like the car is hitting bumps then slipping or jumping sideways, lots of squirming around.
The car is absolutley rock solid, there doesnt seem to be any compliance what so ever. It feels dangerous.
Will the geometry sort this out once its done or am I stuck with the worst handling car I have ever driven?
Have I put too much pre load on the coilovers?
Can anybody advise as to what I may have done wrong? My car is ruined
07 July 2016, 11:11 AM
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I'm near Silverburn shopping centre, it's BC's that I've installed, my car was completley stock when I bought it, the strange thing is I had a bug with similar mods and that was great.
07 July 2016, 11:19 AM
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Be happy to come see how yours is and what its like compared to my own ?
Could be you have knocked your tracking way out, but that shouldnt affect stiffness.
07 July 2016, 03:02 PM
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I wonder is the ARB is too thick. It's essentially joining the suspension up and forcing jolts / shocks through both rear dampers, rather than keeping their independence.
With roll centre kits, coil overs, lowered, ARB and drop links all round you have taken a lot of give from the vehicle - perhaps too much.
What size tyres you running?
With roll centre kits, coil overs, lowered, ARB and drop links all round you have taken a lot of give from the vehicle - perhaps too much.
What size tyres you running?
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I wonder is the ARB is too thick. It's essentially joining the suspension up and forcing jolts / shocks through both rear dampers, rather than keeping their independence.
With roll centre kits, coil overs, lowered, ARB and drop links all round you have taken a lot of give from the vehicle - perhaps too much.
What size tyres you running?
With roll centre kits, coil overs, lowered, ARB and drop links all round you have taken a lot of give from the vehicle - perhaps too much.
What size tyres you running?
Had BC's on the bug too, only difference this time is on the bug I had ALK installed, which I wasnt too enamoured with, this time I decided to go for a roll centre kit instead as on the bug it rolled a bit too much on roundabouts, tyres are 235/40/18 on pff7's.
This afternoon though, I took the preload off the front coilovers, the spring can spin by hand but not move up and down, this has made quite a big difference, still harsh but not as bad, the steering feels a bit disconnected, but I'm hoping this is a geometry issue.
On the rear the bloody locking collars have siezed
I've tried penetrating fluid, but the teeth on the collars are now chipping away, dont want to try heat in case the oil in the shock leaks, I'm at a loss now as to how to loosen them.
08 July 2016, 09:21 AM
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I have a widetrack blob, had the clunking rear struts, so decided to do some handling mods.
I have fitted coilovers, rear 24mm arb on the middle setting (with the stout mounts), standard front arb, adjusable drop links all round, super pro roll centre kit, car is also lowered.
I have not had the geometry done yet, but couldnt wait to go for a spin and feel the changes. I am vey dissappointed as my car is ruined
I have the coilvers on 12 clicks from soft all round, with 5mm of pre load all round, the car is not taking bumps at all. It actually feels like the car is hitting bumps then slipping or jumping sideways, lots of squirming around.
The car is absolutley rock solid, there doesnt seem to be any compliance what so ever. It feels dangerous.
Will the geometry sort this out once its done or am I stuck with the worst handling car I have ever driven?
Have I put too much pre load on the coilovers?
Can anybody advise as to what I may have done wrong? My car is ruined
I have fitted coilovers, rear 24mm arb on the middle setting (with the stout mounts), standard front arb, adjusable drop links all round, super pro roll centre kit, car is also lowered.
I have not had the geometry done yet, but couldnt wait to go for a spin and feel the changes. I am vey dissappointed as my car is ruined
I have the coilvers on 12 clicks from soft all round, with 5mm of pre load all round, the car is not taking bumps at all. It actually feels like the car is hitting bumps then slipping or jumping sideways, lots of squirming around.
The car is absolutley rock solid, there doesnt seem to be any compliance what so ever. It feels dangerous.
Will the geometry sort this out once its done or am I stuck with the worst handling car I have ever driven?
Have I put too much pre load on the coilovers?
Can anybody advise as to what I may have done wrong? My car is ruined
Go and speak to these guys. Quite simply the best in the business and only 10 minutes from you.
http://www.kbmengineering.co.uk/
Not expensive either (and know their way around imprezas)
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08 July 2016, 02:23 PM
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I had the same diameter arb on my previous bug, with standard front and I loved the way car turned, I was hoping for a similar effect on the blob. The drop links are Whiteline KLC139, I fitted them by adjusting one to the exact same length as a standard one, fitting it then adjusting the other to fit the arb hole while making sure the fitting point on the arb is horizontal.
08 July 2016, 02:27 PM
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Mate
Go and speak to these guys. Quite simply the best in the business and only 10 minutes from you.
http://www.kbmengineering.co.uk/
Not expensive either (and know their way around imprezas)
Go and speak to these guys. Quite simply the best in the business and only 10 minutes from you.
http://www.kbmengineering.co.uk/
Not expensive either (and know their way around imprezas)
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I have a widetrack blob, had the clunking rear struts, so decided to do some handling mods.
I have fitted coilovers, rear 24mm arb on the middle setting (with the stout mounts), standard front arb, adjusable drop links all round, super pro roll centre kit, car is also lowered.
I have not had the geometry done yet, but couldnt wait to go for a spin and feel the changes. I am vey dissappointed as my car is ruined
I have the coilvers on 12 clicks from soft all round, with 5mm of pre load all round, the car is not taking bumps at all. It actually feels like the car is hitting bumps then slipping or jumping sideways, lots of squirming around.
The car is absolutley rock solid, there doesnt seem to be any compliance what so ever. It feels dangerous.
Will the geometry sort this out once its done or am I stuck with the worst handling car I have ever driven?
Have I put too much pre load on the coilovers?
Can anybody advise as to what I may have done wrong? My car is ruined
I have fitted coilovers, rear 24mm arb on the middle setting (with the stout mounts), standard front arb, adjusable drop links all round, super pro roll centre kit, car is also lowered.
I have not had the geometry done yet, but couldnt wait to go for a spin and feel the changes. I am vey dissappointed as my car is ruined
I have the coilvers on 12 clicks from soft all round, with 5mm of pre load all round, the car is not taking bumps at all. It actually feels like the car is hitting bumps then slipping or jumping sideways, lots of squirming around.
The car is absolutley rock solid, there doesnt seem to be any compliance what so ever. It feels dangerous.
Will the geometry sort this out once its done or am I stuck with the worst handling car I have ever driven?
Have I put too much pre load on the coilovers?
Can anybody advise as to what I may have done wrong? My car is ruined
If your ride height has changed from fitting the coilovers then your geo will be completely screwed up. Hence the darting all over the road.
08 July 2016, 09:58 PM
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If you have not had the geometry set up after fitting all that then you cannot make any judgements on how it handles it will be pointing all over the place.
I would suggest a trip to Kenny Brown in Hillington or Duncan at Hypertec in Bonneybridge and get the car set up and I bet it is night and day.
The bits you have fitted are not the issue.
I would suggest a trip to Kenny Brown in Hillington or Duncan at Hypertec in Bonneybridge and get the car set up and I bet it is night and day.
The bits you have fitted are not the issue.
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