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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 04:25 PM
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I am relatively new to subaru world. I have a 2001 bugeye. I have just installed apex 40mm lowering springs with standard dampers ( apparently shorter ones are needed), however my front coil springs are are almost fully compressed when lowered to the floor off the jack. i may have 1/2cm clearance between coils if I am being generous.

Surely that can't be right????


Can someone please advise me if this normal.

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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 04:39 PM
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Not normal - dangerous.
The front springs are shorter than the rear springs.
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 04:43 PM
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That's the front spring. I have checked with the manufacturer that they are the right way round for piece of mind, i know the fronts are shorter than the rears but don't understand why the spring has compressed that much unless the dampers are weak and collapsed hence the spring being so compressed???
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 04:48 PM
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Damper condition wouldn't matter.
320-1050 on the springs?
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 04:51 PM
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yes, that's the ones I have fitted VA on the front and HA on the rears as advised by the Apex
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 05:53 PM
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All you've got between you and complete coil bind, is a soft 60mm bump stop.
A bump stop is not designed to prevent coil bind, as it's a wear item.

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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 05:57 PM
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So what do you think the problem is??? Thanks
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As the bump stop is compressible and a wear item, there should be metal to metal contact between the upper and lower spring perches, or spring perch to damper, to stop coil bind.
You can't drop an Impreza, with struts, 40mm and have a fully functional suspension.
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Old Jun 13, 2015 | 12:14 PM
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So why sell 40mm lowering springs if it can't be done with dampers and fully functional suspension then??? Seems made. How do I get round this?? Or isn't there a way round it. Thanks
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Old Jun 13, 2015 | 12:56 PM
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The problem is looks v ride height.
Lowering an Impreza on struts is problematic.
Lowering the ride height, lowers the roll centre by twice as much.

Below is the optimum Prodrive sport strut set-up for a daily driver. You could go lower, if you never drive quickly on B-roads.



Prodrive did wrx and sti springs for the bugeye. If you have wrx struts you have to use wrx springs. Sti springs for sti dampers - they're not interchangeable.

You can use blob/hawk wrx springs on a wrx bug, but you have to use the blob/hawk top hat and a scooby921 spacer, on the rears.
Or, use wrx blob/hawk rear strut complete.

Good springs:

https://www.scoobynet.com/group-buys...mited-run.html

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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 03:05 PM
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What he said ^^^ about the spacers. We do these also, but in this country and for much much less. http://www.pedders.co.uk/strut-fitti...t_p4512840.htm

We also do lowering coils, but they wont give you 40mm.
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