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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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The sorry Scouse 'title charge' left SHATTERED by Bramble brilliancy!

ليفربول - ويغان أتلتيك " الدوري الانجليزي " : الهدف الاول و التعادل لويغان

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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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I have to say I'm now getting beyond bemused by, and moving into p!ssed off with, Rafa's team selections

It seems that every time he finds a team and formation that works he bins it and goes back to one he already knows doesn't


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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Well thats enough for me after that ....

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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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Liverpool playing for 4th at the turn of the year.... love it! I like Rafa and hope he stays. He looked like a man on the verge of a breakdown last night. So many average player bought. Only Torres is up to the job. top class player!
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Bramble!

Jesus wept the man is just annoying.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Bramble!

Jesus wept the man is just annoying.

Tell me about it

That goal did kind of take the sheen off his last goal at Anfield
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Theres always next season , oh hang on! they said that last season
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Theres always next season , oh hang on! they said that last season
and the season before
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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and the season before
and before that
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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I know people like to knock SG, he is after all one of two world class players in that side, but the ball came of mascherano. Good finish from Bramble tho.

Plan was to use the wide men to open up what would have been a defensive rear guard from Wigan. Leaving one up with SG behind was not such a bad idea, given that they're out best striking options at the moment.

On the subject of average players, yep there are a few that he's bought, but then he's never had the money like Chelski or Manure have had. Players like Pennant, Kuyt, Josemi, Kronkamp, even Benayoun were not his first choice players, but you can only buy against the finances you're allocated. And before anyone bangs on about how much he has spent, think about net before bleating out figures.

I think a couple of very good wide men, Kewell and Pennant are not good enough and another top class striker would make us serious challengers.

I can't see Chelski winning it this year, having said that sure Grant is overdue a few hundred million to spend.

Good to see Torres coming through, one that Taggart let slip!
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I know people like to knock SG, he is after all one of two world class players in that side, but the ball came of mascherano. Good finish from Bramble tho.

Plan was to use the wide men to open up what would have been a defensive rear guard from Wigan. Leaving one up with SG behind was not such a bad idea, given that they're out best striking options at the moment.

On the subject of average players, yep there are a few that he's bought, but then he's never had the money like Chelski or Manure have had. Players like Pennant, Kuyt, Josemi, Kronkamp, even Benayoun were not his first choice players, but you can only buy against the finances you're allocated. And before anyone bangs on about how much he has spent, think about net before bleating out figures.

I think a couple of very good wide men, Kewell and Pennant are not good enough and another top class striker would make us serious challengers.

I can't see Chelski winning it this year, having said that sure Grant is overdue a few hundred million to spend.

Good to see Torres coming through, one that Taggart let slip!
Reads like a man defeated
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On the subject of average players, yep there are a few that he's bought, but then he's never had the money like Chelski or Manure have had. Players like Pennant, Kuyt, Josemi, Kronkamp, even Benayoun were not his first choice players, but you can only buy against the finances you're allocated. And before anyone bangs on about how much he has spent, think about net before bleating out figures.

Good to see Torres coming through, one that Taggart let slip!
Arsenal are doing ok aren't they? How much have they spent compared to Liverpool?
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Out of the premiership title race by January
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Originally Posted by TimWRX01
Arsenal are doing ok aren't they? How much have they spent compared to Liverpool?
not sure what your point is here when I haven't even mentioned Arsenal.....
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not sure what your point is here when I haven't even mentioned Arsenal.....
Not the sharpest are you?

You reasoned that Liverpool are in the position that they are in because they only have average players because they have no money unlike United and Chelsea.

Well Arsenal haven't spent that much yet they are top of the league.
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Originally Posted by ash1
I know people like to knock SG, he is after all one of two world class players in that side, but the ball came of mascherano. Good finish from Bramble tho.

Plan was to use the wide men to open up what would have been a defensive rear guard from Wigan. Leaving one up with SG behind was not such a bad idea, given that they're out best striking options at the moment.

On the subject of average players, yep there are a few that he's bought, but then he's never had the money like Chelski or Manure have had. Players like Pennant, Kuyt, Josemi, Kronkamp, even Benayoun were not his first choice players, but you can only buy against the finances you're allocated. And before anyone bangs on about how much he has spent, think about net before bleating out figures.

I think a couple of very good wide men, Kewell and Pennant are not good enough and another top class striker would make us serious challengers.

I can't see Chelski winning it this year, having said that sure Grant is overdue a few hundred million to spend.

Good to see Torres coming through, one that Taggart let slip!

Excuses, excuses.
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Originally Posted by TimWRX01
Not the sharpest are you?

You reasoned that Liverpool are in the position that they are in because they only have average players because they have no money unlike United and Chelsea.

Well Arsenal haven't spent that much yet they are top of the league.
You have to explain everything to him
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not sure about ****, but then having a team of import youngsters should be cheap as chips. do you have an academy ?
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Originally Posted by ash1
not sure about ****, but then having a team of import youngsters should be cheap as chips. do you have an academy ?
How many 'import youngsters' has Rafa brought in recently?

Out of that number, how many have made it close to the first team squad?

I'll help you out:

Nikolay Mihaylov
Gary Mackay Steven
Lucas Leiva
Sebastian Leto
Charles Itandje
Mikel San Jose
Alex Cooper
Emiliano Insua
Nabil El Zhar
Miki Roque

Lucas has played a few games, but that's about it.

Who else am I missing?

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Originally Posted by ash1
do you have an academy ?
Maybe RaFAT should bring in some of your academy players then
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Originally Posted by G-STAR
How many 'import youngsters' has Rafa brought in recently?

Out of that number, how many have made it close to the first team squad?

I'll help you out:

Nikolay Mihaylov
Gary Mackay Steven
Lucas Leiva
Sebastian Leto
Charles Itandje
Mikel San Jose
Alex Cooper
Emiliano Insua
Nabil El Zhar
Miki Roque

Lucas has played a few games, but that's about it.

Who else am I missing?
like you, totally pointless post and off subject. i dont need to point out LFC's academy.
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and before that
50 years mean anything to you Paul ?
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50 years mean anything to you Paul ?
So another 32 years of wait
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nah, i think we would have bought one by then, pretty much like you have.
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Originally Posted by TimWRX01
Not the sharpest are you?

You reasoned that Liverpool are in the position that they are in because they only have average players because they have no money unlike United and Chelsea.

Well Arsenal haven't spent that much yet they are top of the league.
yer but you haven't won anything yet and havent for the past 3 years ! i seem to recall when the gooners were doing very well last year and it all fell apart in 11 glorious days.
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nah, i think we would have bought one by then, pretty much like you have.

Not done a very good job so far
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like you, totally pointless post and off subject. i dont need to point out LFC's academy.
I'd say that was bang on.

Not only have you wasted remarkable amounts on sub-standard 'top' players (all of which were, at one time or another, hailed as the last piece of the jigsaw, the 'corner turning' signing), but Rafa's been pulling foreign youngsters from every source possible, trying to replicate Arsenal's success.

Sadly, you simply don't have the knack to be able to continue their development.

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nah, i think we would have bought one by then, pretty much like you have.

Villa have never brought the league

But you will need too, take away SG and FT ..... a average side you have so
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Originally Posted by G-STAR
How many 'import youngsters' has Rafa brought in recently?

Out of that number, how many have made it close to the first team squad?

I'll help you out:

Nikolay Mihaylov
Gary Mackay Steven
Lucas Leiva
Sebastian Leto
Charles Itandje
Mikel San Jose
Alex Cooper
Emiliano Insua
Nabil El Zhar
Miki Roque

Lucas has played a few games, but that's about it.

Who else am I missing?
Lucas Leiva
Sebastian Leto
Charles Itandje
Nabil El Zhar

Have all played first team football. The rest are ones for the future You know how many squad players you can have right ?
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Originally Posted by DJ Dunk
Lucas Leiva
Sebastian Leto
Charles Itandje
Nabil El Zhar

Have all played first team football. The rest are ones for the future You know how many squad players you can have right ?
It'll be good to see how many actually come through - I'd expect one, maybe two.

I'll reword - how many are in the squad (of what, 42?) and have made pushes for selection?

You must admit that Rafa has gone a tad wild in trying to replicate Arsenal's policy, yet has very, very little to show for it.
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