What a cheating c*** of a ref!
20 October 2007, 09:23 PM
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What a cheating c*** of a ref!
1st half was a cracker of a game with SA probably playing the better rugby but England defending superbly.
2nd half absolutely ruined by a ref determined to give it to SA. To not give that try was the worst decision i've ever seen
Well done you stupid ******* pr!ck of a ref (and video ref) for ruining what should have been the game of the tournament
2nd half absolutely ruined by a ref determined to give it to SA. To not give that try was the worst decision i've ever seen
Well done you stupid ******* pr!ck of a ref (and video ref) for ruining what should have been the game of the tournament
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20 October 2007, 09:43 PM
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Well i'd like to say well done SA but the ref was a joke and ruined the result and what was a fair game in the 1st half.
I'd like to see a replay between these two teams with a NZ ref and then we'd see fair decisions. What a pathetic and **** final (read 2nd half) for what had been a fantastic tournament
I'd like to see a replay between these two teams with a NZ ref and then we'd see fair decisions. What a pathetic and **** final (read 2nd half) for what had been a fantastic tournament
20 October 2007, 10:23 PM
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Sorry fellas, it pains me to say, but with the benefit of Sky+ pause, I've watched it a dozen times and his foot JUST touches the line before he grounds the ball. I was up in arms at the decision at the time, but it wasn't a try
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20 October 2007, 10:28 PM
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Sorry but that was a try - there comes a time when touching the upper 2mm of chalked grass has to be given in the spirit of the game.
Try try try all the way
After that run - it would have been a very different game
Still dont know that we'd have won - but I do know that was a **** fiucking poor decision by a bitter australian who should have gone home with his team.
Try try try all the way
After that run - it would have been a very different game
Still dont know that we'd have won - but I do know that was a **** fiucking poor decision by a bitter australian who should have gone home with his team.
20 October 2007, 10:29 PM
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Sorry but that was a try - there comes a time when touching the upper 2mm of chalked grass has to be given in the spirit of the game.
Try try try all the way
After that run - it would have been a very different game
Still dont know that we'd have won - but I do know that was a **** fiucking poor decision by a bitter australian who should have gone home with his team.
Try try try all the way
After that run - it would have been a very different game
Still dont know that we'd have won - but I do know that was a **** fiucking poor decision by a bitter australian who should have gone home with his team.
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20 October 2007, 10:42 PM
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1st half was a cracker of a game with SA probably playing the better rugby but England defending superbly.
2nd half absolutely ruined by a ref determined to give it to SA. To not give that try was the worst decision i've ever seen
Well done you stupid ******* pr!ck of a ref (and video ref) for ruining what should have been the game of the tournament
2nd half absolutely ruined by a ref determined to give it to SA. To not give that try was the worst decision i've ever seen
Well done you stupid ******* pr!ck of a ref (and video ref) for ruining what should have been the game of the tournament
Martin Johnson agreed with the video refs decision by the way.
20 October 2007, 10:58 PM
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Not at the time he didn't, all the pundits were saying it was a try. He then changed his tune at the end of the game to sound sporting. I don't deny SA played the better game and don't begrudge them the win (despite the high tackles 
) but for me a perfectly good game was ruined by the ref.
Two games i'd like to see, England vs SA with a NZ ref and SA vs NZ as I think the All Blacks would flatten SA (still can't understand how they lost to the Frogs).
) but for me a perfectly good game was ruined by the ref.Two games i'd like to see, England vs SA with a NZ ref and SA vs NZ as I think the All Blacks would flatten SA (still can't understand how they lost to the Frogs).
20 October 2007, 11:01 PM
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Martin Johnson is the consumate professional and wouldn't argue with the official's decision on TV under any cirmcumstance....for which I admire him greatly. I wish even a handful of chav football "professionals" had half the integrity.
I obviously cant say for sure - but I honestly dont believe I'd have been upset had that been given to SA under reversed circumstance.
"Possibly" touching the upper few mm of chalked grass isnt enough in my mind to determine the world cup. That should have been given.
I obviously cant say for sure - but I honestly dont believe I'd have been upset had that been given to SA under reversed circumstance.
"Possibly" touching the upper few mm of chalked grass isnt enough in my mind to determine the world cup. That should have been given.
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20 October 2007, 11:05 PM
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My mail to a mate before this thread...
MSN home page has a nice pic….which is about 5 ms after the crucial point where a boot may have touched the “tip” of a chalked blade of grass. very very poor decision for me. I couldn’t have complained if that one had gone to SA had it been reversed.
MSN home page has a nice pic….which is about 5 ms after the crucial point where a boot may have touched the “tip” of a chalked blade of grass. very very poor decision for me. I couldn’t have complained if that one had gone to SA had it been reversed.
20 October 2007, 11:19 PM
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Not at the time he didn't, all the pundits were saying it was a try. He then changed his tune at the end of the game to sound sporting. I don't deny SA played the better game and don't begrudge them the win (despite the high tackles ) but for me a perfectly good game was ruined by the ref.
Two games i'd like to see, England vs SA with a NZ ref and SA vs NZ as I think the All Blacks would flatten SA (still can't understand how they lost to the Frogs).
) but for me a perfectly good game was ruined by the ref.Two games i'd like to see, England vs SA with a NZ ref and SA vs NZ as I think the All Blacks would flatten SA (still can't understand how they lost to the Frogs).
Cant really comment on Martins 'changed' opinion.
Using a NZ ref would lead to SA complaining... generally the Boks have poor results when NZ ref them.
Regarding the Boks v All Blacks, that has been a standing statement for NZ on any RWC team for the last 4 WC's (well excluding 95 when they were in the final).
20 October 2007, 11:25 PM
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Not being an all year round sports fan some of the rules do elude me. So may I ask one question:
Under what circumstances are you allowed to drag the ref into the middle of the pitch and shoot him?
Under what circumstances are you allowed to drag the ref into the middle of the pitch and shoot him?
20 October 2007, 11:30 PM
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20 October 2007, 11:34 PM
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Like i've posted in the NSR thread had that try been given I agree it may still have been SA's cup but the ref is responsible for ruining the game with that decision. If it was given and we still lost i'd be saying well done SA. I just think the game would have taken a diffent course had the try been given and been much more of a game in the last quarter. The 2nd half was **** compared to the 1st half and thats all down to the ref.
20 October 2007, 11:45 PM
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Like i've posted in the NSR thread had that try been given I agree it may still have been SA's cup but the ref is responsible for ruining the game with that decision. If it was given and we still lost i'd be saying well done SA. I just think the game would have taken a diffent course had the try been given and been much more of a game in the last quarter. The 2nd half was **** compared to the 1st half and thats all down to the ref.
20 October 2007, 11:48 PM
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Well at least we can agree on one thing, the ref was rubbish! Those decisions not given on both sides could have potentially changed the game. Its just frustrating to see a tournament thats been an absolute cracker end with a game negatively influenced by the officials.
21 October 2007, 12:32 PM
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Posted the 'offending' pic on the other thread but will add it here as well
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Sod the dis-allowed try, it wasn't the difference between winning, and losing.
We lost because of the penalties we gave away !
It's a shame some members of the team can't quite grasp the rule of keeping their fecking hands out !!!
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We lost because of the penalties we gave away !
It's a shame some members of the team can't quite grasp the rule of keeping their fecking hands out !!!
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21 October 2007, 09:10 PM
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To be fair you were lucky the ref didn't ping England more for hands in the ruck than he did!! I thought he had a pretty good game all said, and what he did get wrong he got wrong for both sides fairly consistently.
That was not a try, spot on decision from the video ref because Cueto's foot was in touch before he got near to grounding the ball. England lost that game because SA were a better side, plain and simple. Be proud you got to the final, some better sides didn't even make it that far in what will be remembered as one of the best world cups ever.
That was not a try, spot on decision from the video ref because Cueto's foot was in touch before he got near to grounding the ball. England lost that game because SA were a better side, plain and simple. Be proud you got to the final, some better sides didn't even make it that far in what will be remembered as one of the best world cups ever.
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I thought the ref had a good game, it was the video judge that made the decision. And although SA were the best team throughtout the whole tournament, I actualy thought England were the better team in the final, they certainly in my eyes played the rugby with the most attacking intent, just lacking that bit of genius in the last part of the field.
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