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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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So, what do we think?

Personally, I'd say that attacking, very threatening, but defensively they looked a little shaky, and the midfield didn't grab the game by the scruff of the neck and take control.

If we do meet them in the semi-final (looking ahead a fair bit, I know ), I think we'd have joy from set pieces, especially considering Beckham's recent form, hopefully that'll be a recurring factor in the tournament.

I'd say it's very encouraging from an England perspective.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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Sorry, this should be in the 'Sports' forum.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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They didnt exactly look stunning. Ronaldinio is obviously good, but did lose the ball a fair few times and make some poor passes.

Croatia could quite easily have won that game really.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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All about Kaka. Best player in the WC
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
All about Kaka. Best player in the WC
I knew that'd be coming from you.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Croatia could quite easily have won that game really.
Very true. They had three good chances, but put them all straight at Dida. A yard either side and they'd have beaten him.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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I knew that'd be coming from you.
He's a joy to watch though. All measured. Cool on the ball, great touch, skill. The lot. His goal was quality. touch, look up and pick your spot then almost passed it in.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:12 AM
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TBH it looked like a training match for them! Brazil NEVER look very good until the latter stages of any competition and then they turn on the flair!!!! IMHO obviously
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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Considering they were playing with 10 men for a good portion of the match they did very well. Ronaldinio stood out for me, and as mentioned their coach the other day said they will be much better in the second round.
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Considering they were playing with 10 men for a good portion of the match they did very well. Ronaldinio stood out for me, and as mentioned their coach the other day said they will be much better in the second round.
To be honest, I felt they played a little like England did in the second half against Paraguay (perhaps worse, considering their leaky defence) - funny to see that you're still singing their praises.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by G-STAR
To be honest, I felt they played a little like England did in the second half against Paraguay (perhaps worse, considering their leaky defence) - funny to see that you're still singing their praises.
Hardly singing their praises is it? I'm more likely to be vocal about a poor England performance than a Brazil one since I'm English.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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Just an observation, that's all.

One poor half from England and you state that we don't have a hope of doing well (plus the now infamous Trinidad & Tobago comment ), while a poor ninety minutes from Brazil is met with a "they'll come good in the second round" comment.
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Originally Posted by G-STAR
Just an observation, that's all.

One poor half from England and you state that we don't have a hope of doing well (plus the now infamous Trinidad & Tobago comment ), while a poor ninety minutes from Brazil is met with a "they'll come good in the second round" comment.
You could say though that he's based that on how Brazil tend to do compared to how England tend to perform. I cant get excited about England at all with Sven in charge.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by G-STAR
Just an observation, that's all.

One poor half from England and you state that we don't have a hope of doing well (plus the now infamous Trinidad & Tobago comment ), while a poor ninety minutes from Brazil is met with a "they'll come good in the second round" comment.
The comment about the second round is not mine, I said that's what their coach said before they even kicked a ball yesterday.

At least Brazil scored their own goal yesterday In any case my problem lies with Sven not the team.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Not an inspired performance but Carlos, Kaka and Ronaldinho were superb. Keeper had a good game too. As for Ronaldo - don't know why he bothered turning up

Still got my Brazil '70 shirt on today though

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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Brazil would have scored again had they needed to - of that there is no question.

They play football for fun, score for fun and let goals in for fun ......

Remember they were playing with 10 men!!!

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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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They seemed a bit complacent defensively - when Croatia were attacking them 4 of the players were stood on the halfway line chatting waiting for the ball to come back up...

Thought Croatia were unlucky and were the better team - the Brazillians deserved a spanking...
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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Maybe they thought that Croatia were not enough of a threat to them to justify playing at 100%, Most of the time Brazil were jogging as if they were playing in a park even when attacking, while Ronaldo must have thought he was in a park having a picnic, or thinking about what he's having for tea or where to go out that night?

EDIT: Croatia probably deserve some credit as they seemed like a tough solid unit when it came to defending down the centre mainly.
When they weren't rolling around in agony for nothing.

Did anyone watch the France Game?

I think Mick Mcarthy(sp?) should commentate more often, ........not afraid to say it like it is.

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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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wtf has happened to ronaldo? i mean i always thought he was over hyped, but why on earth is he being allowed to play when he is so obviously unfit and over weight?
Its almost scandalous. the other brazil strikers sitting on the bench must be fuming. imagine working your socks of staying fit and healthy only to find the gaffer wants to play gary bloody barlow up front instead!!
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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I reckon that Brazil aren't gearing up till the games that really count. However, they did look very ordinary.

They have named a full strength squad against Australia though.
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