Kiwis are now whingeing and the french think they won it as well ????
24 November 2003, 01:13 PM
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a quick scan of the ozzie papers (online) shows they have been humble in defeat but the following two articles were quite interesting
Hmmm so who's holding the trophy then 
perhaps we should hand it over eerrrrr NOT.
Now this is REALLY sad
Stats boffin has news for England
From correspondents in Wellington
November 24, 2003
WHILE England will take home the trophy, New Zealand rugby fans can take comfort in the fact that – on a purely statistical basis – the All Blacks won the rugby World Cup.
According to Massey University sports statistician Dr Hugh Morton, New Zealand were the best-performed team in the competition, based on his "adjustive ranking system",
According to his system, a team increases its points if it plays well and decreases its points if it does not.
This differs from the accumulative system, which awards four points for a win but which never goes down if a team fails to win.
Applying this system, using a well-known statistical procedure called multiple regression, to the results of all 48 World Cup matches, puts New Zealand at the top of the table with 112.05 points, Australia second at 104.86, England third on 104.14, followed by France at 93.83 and South Africa on 88.69.
"Using my system several groups' ratings are very close and really are not significantly different," Dr Morton said in a statement.
"Although England won the tournament, they are not top seeds."
Chirac hails title as win 'for Europe'
November 24, 2003
From correspondents in Wellington
November 24, 2003
WHILE England will take home the trophy, New Zealand rugby fans can take comfort in the fact that – on a purely statistical basis – the All Blacks won the rugby World Cup.
According to Massey University sports statistician Dr Hugh Morton, New Zealand were the best-performed team in the competition, based on his "adjustive ranking system",
According to his system, a team increases its points if it plays well and decreases its points if it does not.
This differs from the accumulative system, which awards four points for a win but which never goes down if a team fails to win.
Applying this system, using a well-known statistical procedure called multiple regression, to the results of all 48 World Cup matches, puts New Zealand at the top of the table with 112.05 points, Australia second at 104.86, England third on 104.14, followed by France at 93.83 and South Africa on 88.69.
"Using my system several groups' ratings are very close and really are not significantly different," Dr Morton said in a statement.
"Although England won the tournament, they are not top seeds."
Chirac hails title as win 'for Europe'
November 24, 2003
perhaps we should hand it over eerrrrr NOT.
Now this is REALLY sad
YOUR team is knocked out of the World Cup in the semi-finals. So what do you do? Claim some of the triumph any way you can - even if it means overlooking an often antagonistic relationship and sidling up to the mob who dumped you out of the tournament in the first place.
England's champions yesterday won effusive praise from French President Jacques Chirac, who said their defeat of Australia was "a victory for Europe".
"Rarely have I witnessed a match so engaging and of such intensity," the French president wrote in a congratulatory message to England prime minister Tony Blair.
Chirac praised the "coolness and intelligence" of five-eighth Jonny Wilkinson, whose last-minute drop goal secured the win.
"This deserved victory is also a victory for Europe," Chirac wrote. "Thanks to the extraordinary talent of the English players, the World Cup is coming to the northern hemisphere for the first time. All lovers of rugby in France and in Europe share the joy of the English fans."
England's champions yesterday won effusive praise from French President Jacques Chirac, who said their defeat of Australia was "a victory for Europe".
"Rarely have I witnessed a match so engaging and of such intensity," the French president wrote in a congratulatory message to England prime minister Tony Blair.
Chirac praised the "coolness and intelligence" of five-eighth Jonny Wilkinson, whose last-minute drop goal secured the win.
"This deserved victory is also a victory for Europe," Chirac wrote. "Thanks to the extraordinary talent of the English players, the World Cup is coming to the northern hemisphere for the first time. All lovers of rugby in France and in Europe share the joy of the English fans."
24 November 2003, 05:32 PM
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They still think Carlos Spencer is the best flyhalf in the world,so what else would i expect from the losing semi finalists
The kiwi's are looking for "revenge" in the next summer tests downunder,but why?? we never beat them it was the Aussies LOL
The kiwi's are looking for "revenge" in the next summer tests downunder,but why?? we never beat them it was the Aussies LOL
24 November 2003, 05:41 PM
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They still think Carlos Spencer is the best flyhalf in the world
Trouble is he cant kick, which means they have to pick someone else to do the kicking. Not a problem until you pick a fullback (Macdonald) to play at centre against Mortlock. Stupid.New Zealand = best players in the world, uninspiring captain and naive selection policy.
England = superb players plus best coaching staff. This is why England won, and well deserved it was too.
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24 November 2003, 06:14 PM
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England players only superb and kiwi's the best in the world
Remind me again when these so called best players in the whole wide world won a World Cup
And Jonny is the bestest ever flyhalf cos i say so!,so there!
[Edited by planky - 11/24/2003 6:18:49 PM]
Remind me again when these so called best players in the whole wide world won a World Cup
And Jonny is the bestest ever flyhalf cos i say so!,so there!
[Edited by planky - 11/24/2003 6:18:49 PM]
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