dpb

What did KP say about Strauss anyway ?

mickeymouse

As I understand it... Whilst England was playing South Africa..KP was sending team info and tactics to SA captain G.Smith and other SA players.. KP also sent those same players racist and derogatory remarks regarding Strauss.

Obviously both KP and Strauss was born in SA..

Not to mention the book KP wrote...

IMHO he shouldn't be allowed any where near the England side..BUT he should be told that and why..

alcazar

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Agree with Mickey.
He isn't a team player and is an unsettling influence.

dpb

Ooooh , I didn't realise Strauss was south African ...!

mickeymouse

You'll be amazed at how many in the current England team or past was not born in England!!

KP, Strauss, Jonathan trott, Matt prior and jade dernbach are from South Africa..

Eion Morgan and Boyd rankin was born in Ireland

Ben stokes is actually a kiwi!!

Sam Robson is an Aussie!

And Chris Jordan is from Barbados..

Sadly playing for your country in cricket doesn't work like most other sports...

I think this has a VERY small part to play in how up and down we are..obviously it's not the total reason.. But I do think it plays a small part.

dpb

Bl***y hell , I knew kp was sarf african but that's absurd

Funkii Munkii

All of which have a British parent, bar Jordan (Grand parent) and Dernbach who's parents were Italian/South African and plays for England through british citzenship.

It's no biggy it's been happening in Cricket for decades, AUS/NZ/India have all had players born elsewhere, have a look at the UAE team from the WC not a local amongst them lol

An0n0m0us

Here's a list for you (from 2013 courtesy of http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-born-abroad):

AUSTRALIA: Billy Murdoch, John Ferris, Sammy Woods, Albert Trott, "Gubby" Allen, Adam Hollioake, Ben Hollioake, Jason Gallian, Tim Ambrose.

SOUTH AFRICA: Basil D’Oliviera, Tony Greig, Ian Greig, Allan Lamb, Chris Smith, Robin Smith, Andrew Strauss, Kevin Pietersen, Matt Prior, Ian Trott.

WEST INDIES: Lord Harris, Pelham Warner, Roland Butcher, Norman Cowans, Wilf Slack, Gladstone Small, Phillip DeFreitas, Devon Malcolm, Chris Lewis, Neil Williams, Joseph Benjamin.

NEW ZEALAND: Andy Caddick.

INDIA: K.S. Ranjitsinhji ("Ranji"), Edward Wynyard, Richard Young, Neville Tufnell, Douglas Jardine, K.S. Duleepsinhji ("Duleep"), Nawab of Pataudi, Sr., Errol Holmes, Norman Mitchell-Innes, George Emmett, Colin Cowdrey, John Jameson, Bob Woolmer, Robin Jackman, Nasser Hussain, Minal Patel.

PAKISTAN: Usman Afzaal, Owais Shah.

ZIMBABWE (formerly Rhodesia): Graeme Hick, Paul Parker.

KENYA: Derek Pringle.

ZAMBIA: Phil Edmonds, Neil Radford.

GERMANY: Donald Carr, Paul Terry.

ITALY: Ted Dexter.

PERU: Freddie Brown.

HONG KONG: Dermot Reeve.

PAPUA NEW GUINEA: Geraint Jones.

DENMARK: Amjad Khan.

Alan Lamb was about as South African as you could get but SA were banned from international cricket back then so his only option was to play for England. Some great names in that list and what a team you could make from that lot.

Tidgy

england's team is second rate even with the grey imports lol