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There is No Excuse - Final Entry List for November 17th

Old Sep 11, 2001 | 10:48 AM
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Reference
Standard STi Required
Floyd Merrison

Stage I
Graham Stocker
Ian Gratton
John Trachy
Justin Andrews
Louisa Cope
Paul O'Connor
Alan Purcell
Laurence Pitt
Mikee Singh

Stage II
Alex Creasey
Andrew Cawte
Andy Hamilton
George Birnie
Mark Bryan
Pete Croney
Scotty Helen
Lincoln A

Stage III
Adam Messulam
David 'Rannoch' Taylor
Steve McCulloch
Stuart Knight
Moe Kadri
Nito
Sam Elasser
Tim Whiteside

Stage IV
Mark Aigin
Danny Fisher

Updated list - I now need a standard (if there is such a thing) STi - when I get home I will check to see who is waiting in the wings, in the interim if you have one and want to run let me know.

rannoch1@hotmail.com

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Old Oct 16, 2001 | 07:26 PM
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I feel a bit like Pete Waterman of Pop Idol today we have to announce who's in and who's out.

I feel extremely disappointed that we have had to reduce the list - however we went from a fairly small list to having two cars for each slot available!

The judging panel has selected the cars based on uniqueness of tuning combination and so 'duplicate' cars have been whittled down. As it is a shootout, there is also an emphasis as there always has been, on tuned cars. We have also taken out almost all of the reference cars and so we only have Scoobs running on the day.

We have twenty-eight slots available on the day to run and we have selected THIRTY-TWO cars to run on the basis that there are always drop-outs/final withdrawals (he said bravely).

The list is as below: -

Reference
Mike Evans
Phill C (Babber)

Stage I
Graham Stocker
Ian Gratton
John Trachy
Justin Andrews
Louisa Cope
Paul O'Connor
Alan Purcell
Laurence Pitt
Mikee Singh

Stage II
Alex Creasey
Graham Hobbs
Stuart Morse
Andrew Cawte
Andy Hamilton
George Birnie
Mark Bryan
Pete Croney
Scotty Helen
Lincoln A

Stage III
Adam Messulam
David 'Rannoch' Taylor
Steve McCulloch
Stuart Knight
Andy Tang
Moe Kadri
Nito
Sam Elasser
Tim Whiteside

Stage IV
Mark Aigin
Danny Fisher

Thank you to everyone who applied - I hope that you will come on the day to offer your support - you may get a chance to run if things go well and there are some dropouts.

If anybody on the list cannot make it then please let me know as soon as possible.

Finally the charge is likely to be around £30+VAT and we will have some small prizes and a hopefully some bacon butties or similar

Look forward to seeing you all on the day - unfortunately I am not one of the judging panel - merely an accolyte (look it up! )- so cannot enter into any correspondance regarding the final selection.

Cheers,

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[Edited by Trout - 10/18/2001 11:54:22 PM]
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Old Oct 16, 2001 | 07:29 PM
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Old Oct 16, 2001 | 07:32 PM
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I forgot to mention - for those of you who didn't make it in this time we will be organising a further rolling road day and your names will be first on the list

Cheers,

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Old Oct 16, 2001 | 07:36 PM
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Thanks Trout, I know you've put a lot of time and effort into it!

All I can say now is.... "Bring it on!"

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Old Oct 16, 2001 | 07:43 PM
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Trout - I am sorry to say this, but I cannot make the event.

My car is going into the garage, for er a few more mods, and it will not be ready in time..

Please keep me informed for the next one though

Thanks,
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Old Oct 16, 2001 | 09:37 PM
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Trout,I think you deserve some thanks for organising this.I'm not in the line up but will be turning up to watch the fun.It's going to be very interesting to see the results,especially the likes of Fisher/Tang etc!!!!!
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Old Oct 16, 2001 | 10:24 PM
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Trout, WHO ARE THE JUDGES?

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Old Oct 16, 2001 | 10:43 PM
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Looks like a good list, should be a good day.

Bit strange tho how someone who was never on the "original selection for the judging panel" list has been added in!
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Old Oct 16, 2001 | 11:20 PM
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I'd also be interested to know why my name was removed from the list when I put it down before so many others?

Trout, how was this "selection process" carried out? On what basis did you select people? Also, as I said before, if people have been removed why has a completely new person been added... seems extremely unfair.
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 08:26 AM
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Should be good.

Looking forward to seeing everyone on the day!

Laurence
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 08:56 AM
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Lou - I can see where you're coming from as I'm in the same position.

Oh well, I'll stay home and do some knitting instead then.

Simon.
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 09:38 AM
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I'm Gutted!

But I still go along and give my support. (hopefully PS2 car install will be finished by then for me to show off).

Good Luck to all runners.

Cheers


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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 09:50 AM
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It's a shame I didn't get my chance to thrash the other Stage II cars

Maybe next time, if I still have the car then..

Cheers,

Alex

P.S. David - are detailed specs of the cars running going to be provided?
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 10:15 AM
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Stage I
Graham Stocker
Ian Gratton
John Trachy
Justin Andrews
Louisa Cope <----- Lou_C per chance???
Paul O'Connor
Alan Purcell
Laurence Pitt
Mikee Singh
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 11:01 AM
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Can I just ask what the criteria was for choosing which reference cars run or not?

I am sorely dissapointed to see the big hitters such as Blow Dog (Cem) and Mike Rainbird removed.

I did think the reference section was OTT originally, but in its paring down you seemed to have removed the best references.

Is there anyway these two can be reinstated? I would even sacrifice my place to see what they run.
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 11:49 AM
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Trout

Please e-mail me regarding a reserve list for this event on Tim@rb5.net as I would like to run if a relevant space becomes free.

Thanks

Tim


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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 03:14 PM
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Adam,

as we have already seen there have been a number of disappointed people that they didn't get to run. As this was a Subaru 'Shoot Out' then we would have had to make three or four more Subaru drivers disappointed.

At first it looked like there would be plenty of spaces - as it turned out this day is two times oversubscribed.

Again - good luck to those who are in - commiserations to those who are not - we will organise another event soonest.

Cheers,

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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 03:43 PM
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How annoying

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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 03:46 PM
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What are you all talking about? A drag day?

Personally I prefer fishnet stockings
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 04:28 PM
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TROUT, WHO ARE THE JUDGES?

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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 06:41 AM
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Reference
Standard STi Required
Floyd Merrison

Stage I
Graham Stocker
Ian Gratton
John Trachy
Justin Andrews
Louisa Cope
Paul O'Connor
Alan Purcell
Laurence Pitt
Mikee Singh

Stage II
Alex Creasey
Andrew Cawte
Andy Hamilton
George Birnie
Mark Bryan
Pete Croney
Scotty Helen
Lincoln A

Stage III
Adam Messulam
David 'Rannoch' Taylor
Steve McCulloch
Stuart Knight
Andy Tang
Moe Kadri
Nito
Sam Elasser
Tim Whiteside

Stage IV
Mark Aigin
Danny Fisher


I have reposted the list with a couple of updates.

I would also like to post a couple of comments - the 'judges' which are mainly about ensuring cars were in the right category and that a balance was maintained across car groups - are Jonathan who has kindly liaised with Power Engineering, and Jay who will be our scrutineer!


Also I have seen/heard a number of rumblings regarding this event.
I would like to reiterate what all the posts have said from day one

- this is not a 'normal' rolling road day, but a 'shoot-out' for modified Subarus

- the posts have always focused on an 'entry' for consideration with a closing date, not a first come, first served

- the emphasis has been on interesting or unique cars from a modification point of view

None of these things say that modified cars are 'better' or none-modified cars 'not good enough' which I have seen posted here. In fact at the last shootout I was at a large proportion of 'modified' cars fared worse than the standard reference cars!!!!!

So, I repeat my thanks to all of you who 'applied' and I especially appreciate Deep's comments which are very generous in the circumstances. I ask that all of you continue to support the day, and look forward to seeing everyone who is there.

Cheers,

Trout

PS If anyone who didn't make it onto the list but are keen to run, there is a spare place at the Tuning Japanese RR on November 10th.


[Edited by Trout - 10/24/2001 4:33:18 PM]

[Edited by Trout - 11/9/2001 10:46:54 AM]
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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 09:47 AM
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Also, some brief details of the day as not everyone has kept track of the threads.

November 17th - Saturday

Start time approx 8am

Cost - around £30 plus VAT - you pay on the day - none of this having to pay up front, pay a fixed fee for all the cars rubbish

Location - Power Engineering, Uxbridge

That's about it!

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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 09:50 AM
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For those who have never been there before here is a map:

http://www.powerengineering.co.uk/po.../mapdetail.htm
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 08:15 PM
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Mmmmm this thread seems to have moved all by itself!

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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 10:16 PM
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David look's like a great line up,shame I can't be there to watch the fun.
Have a great day,all the hard work will be worth it when it's over!
Cheers Paul.
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Old Oct 29, 2001 | 01:47 PM
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Andy

Thanks for the link on how to get there...

Never been before - should be great



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Old Oct 29, 2001 | 11:50 PM
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The list of participants is divided up into Stages 1 to 4. Presumably these relate to different levels of modification. What are they?

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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 12:35 AM
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Stage 1 = mild

Stage 2 = warm

Stage 3 = wild

Stage 4 = looney toons

IIRC 1 = zorst and filter, 2 = 1 + ecu, 3 = 2 + anything on stock engine internals and 4 are those who have pushed the boat out and built a new engine with stronger internals...
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