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Old 24 January 2018, 12:26 PM
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There's a forged hatch STI on ebay at the moment for £9k.
Old 24 January 2018, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
Hmmmm! That’s a good spot 👍🏻. I’m not looking for silly power, just a little bit more than what I’ve got.
Old 24 January 2018, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
There's a forged hatch STI on ebay at the moment for £9k.
Really ? Is their a reason why it’s so cheap ?
Old 24 January 2018, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
True.


You're a little screwed on turbo choice unless you change to STI TMIC or FMIC then Matty.


Either spend a fortune on a bespoke turbo for the WRX setup or sell your TMIC on and but something that suits the VF48 STI turbo. Would be a lot cheaper in the long run.
Sti tmic’s are cheap enough these days. Can pick one up for £150.
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Hatch STI TMIC's are even bigger than Newage STI TMIC's.
Old 24 January 2018, 12:31 PM
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I’d like a process West intercooler but they cost $1000
Old 24 January 2018, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty81
I’d like a process West intercooler but they cost $1000


Don't get carried away over-specifying a 350bhp car that's restricted by it's turbo and gearbox.
Old 24 January 2018, 12:37 PM
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I stand corrected. £8k for a fully forged hatch STI.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Subaru-im...0AAOSwXMZaW6Mk


Not saying it's the best example out there, but just goes to show what can be had.
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I had a sc36 on my old classic with a 2.5 bottom end and it had little to no lag. With Fmic it was running comfortable at 354/350
Old 24 January 2018, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
True.
You're a little screwed on turbo choice unless you change to STI TMIC or FMIC then Matty.
Either spend a fortune on a bespoke turbo for the WRX setup or sell your TMIC on and but something that suits the VF48 STI turbo. Would be a lot cheaper in the long run.
You forgot the need for the STi manifold and throttle body etc to go with the STi intercooler......................................

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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
Don't get carried away over-specifying a 350bhp car that's restricted by it's turbo and gearbox.
Exactly mate! Which is why I would never buy it for that reason!.Funnily enough I have an undertray for a hatch sti sitting in my shed that’s brand new.
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Originally Posted by imprezagaz
I had a sc36 on my old classic with a 2.5 bottom end and it had little to no lag. With Fmic it was running comfortable at 354/350
That’s good to know 👍🏻. On a wrx or was that an sti ?
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You could also go for a Legacy VF46 (1441AA6709L) turbo from a 2.5L GT from 2009 or earlier (before the turbo moved south infront of the engine)

Just an example
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VF46-14411A...-/121488233051
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Originally Posted by Matty81
That’s good to know 👍🏻. On a wrx or was that an sti ?
It was a v3 classic sti. Still 5 speed and no avcs
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
You could also go for a Legacy VF46 (1441AA6709L) turbo from a 2.5L GT from 2009 or earlier (before the turbo moved south infront of the engine)

Just an example
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VF46-14411A...-/121488233051
that’s a good spot. New with a warranty aswell. What’s the max power are these capable of ? 300bhp ?
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Originally Posted by imprezagaz
It was a v3 classic sti. Still 5 speed and no avcs
Theirs a guy I know who was running 405bhp on a 5 speed v1 actually until he threw a 6 speed box in it.
Old 24 January 2018, 01:16 PM
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Check out this thread
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthrea...ed-119177.html

and then go here to see current options/prices

http://bnrsupercars.com/
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Originally Posted by Matty81
that’s a good spot. New with a warranty aswell. What’s the max power are these capable of ? 300bhp ?
Probably about the same as a WRXs Hatch so not much of an improvement.
Old 24 January 2018, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
Check out this thread
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthrea...ed-119177.html

and then go here to see current options/prices

http://bnrsupercars.com/
They have some nice turbos on the site. £550 isn’t a bad price for a bolt on turbo. 🤔
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Thanks for the help though guys! 👍🏻
Old 24 January 2018, 05:07 PM
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*i think* 09 onwards WRX-S has a bigger turbo than the standard 08 WRX iirc so that would be a natural upgrade

EDIT: pretty certain its a vf52 on them

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Old 24 January 2018, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Gambit
*i think* 09 onwards WRX-S has a bigger turbo than the standard 08 WRX iirc so that would be a natural upgrade

EDIT: pretty certain its a vf52 on them
That would be correct if we got the Subaru Factory WRXS (TD04) and WRXSS (VF52) versions in the UK - US yes, so still an option.


The UK WRXs is just a ppp version of the narrowbody car with some STI add ons
Prodrive has, in time-honoured fashion, fiddled with the boxer’s ECU and modified the exhaust system to release the extra pep. Power has increased from 227bhp at 5200rpm to 251bhp at 5400rpm, but more impressively torque has leapt from 236lb ft at 2800rpm to 288lb ft at 3000rpm. As a result, the 0-60mph time has dropped from 6.1sec to 5.5, although the top speed remains at 130mph. This all seems like great news, but I’m slightly curious because the old Prodrive Performance Pack that could be fitted to the previous-generation WRX (with the same 2.5-litre engine) raised power to 266bhp and torque to an awesome 310lb ft…
http://www.evo.co.uk/subaru/impreza/...u-impreza-wrxs
Old 24 January 2018, 06:22 PM
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I did read up on vf52’s earlier on in the day And most of them were coming in at around the £400/50 mark. What’s the maximum power from them ?, I’m assuming it’s around the 325 mark.

Looking at what don posted earlier with that link to that firm in the USA, their turbos which bolt straight on are nearly £650 with delivery, so would probably be a better way to go than a vf52.
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Originally Posted by Matty81
I did read up on vf52’s earlier on in the day And most of them were coming in at around the £400/50 mark. What’s the maximum power from them ?, I’m assuming it’s around the 325 mark.

Looking at what don posted earlier with that link to that firm in the USA, their turbos which bolt straight on are nearly £650 with delivery, so would probably be a better way to go than a vf52.
A VF52 raises the WRX power to 260 BHP/253 lb ft out of the box.
Old 26 January 2018, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
A VF52 raises the WRX power to 260 BHP/253 lb ft out of the box.
I’m already at 280 with the map and mods I have on board mate
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Found a guy who can adapt a vf35 for me though for £500 or £650 with the ball bearing

Old 26 January 2018, 06:57 PM
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Try a guy called Craig Bellworthy

On most of Subaru groups can build you anything you need.

Good quality and good prices
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Try a guy called Craig Bellworthy

On most of Subaru groups can build you anything you need.

Good quality and good prices
Funnily enough I was chatting to him on Facebook. He was selling me an sc36 and asked him if it was straight bolt on and he said yes. I was interested, until I found out you couldn’t.
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Originally Posted by Matty81
Funnily enough I was chatting to him on Facebook. He was selling me an sc36 and asked him if it was straight bolt on and he said yes. I was interested, until I found out you couldn’t.
He will have what you need.

He prob assumed was a newage

Explain to him and he will build you one.

Bet he has the housings lying around.
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
He will have what you need.

He prob assumed was a newage

Explain to him and he will build you one.

Bet he has the housings lying around.
I’ve sent him a message about that, I’m just waiting for a response mate 👍🏻. If he can though it would be great.
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