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You appear to be inadvertently confirming my views. A top notch bunch of brainiacs there. Traditional Northern Labour voters.
If we had any sense we would scrap 'one person-one vote' and initiate a stepped system where each voter carried between one and four points per vote dependent on certain factors, thereby allowing the more qualified to have a higher impact on any result.
If we had any sense we would scrap 'one person-one vote' and initiate a stepped system where each voter carried between one and four points per vote dependent on certain factors, thereby allowing the more qualified to have a higher impact on any result.
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Actually quite an interesting article on the thoughts of the traditional Northern Labour voters...
Revenge of the betrayed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-Brexit.html
Revenge of the betrayed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-Brexit.html
a process that has been going on for 50 years, and mirrors the decline in economic fortunes of the North during that time
unsurprisingly politicians gravitate towards where the power is!!
it seems the decline has been a combination of politicians abdication of power to "the market" in particular and globalisation in general.
(an abdication by all parties - but the free market mantra comes solely from the right, the Chicago School of supply side economics, sadly uncritically adopted by Labour)
no doubt the Labour voters see a vote out as taking back "control" - but nothing I have heard from the Brexiters leads me to imagine that the mantra of letting "markets" decide (in virtually all spheres of UK life) will be reversed and the politicians will take back "control" and start providing leadership and vision
the EU is simply a convenient and obvious punch bag
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It certainly looks like a Brexit is on the cards
I said on this thread (a few weeks back) that a good friend thought it would go this way - I.e out
I must say I was surprised to hear him say that (as I said in my posts)
I assumed it would a win for in tbh
But the last few weeks it been obvious the tide has turned
The only bright side is wondering what Alcazar will winge about
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I said on this thread (a few weeks back) that a good friend thought it would go this way - I.e out
I must say I was surprised to hear him say that (as I said in my posts)
I assumed it would a win for in tbh
But the last few weeks it been obvious the tide has turned
The only bright side is wondering what Alcazar will winge about
(Answers on a post card)
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Certainly does
Can't wait to see the look on Junckers face - the incompetant deluded fool will probably just completely deny the UK has voted out and carry on as usual though!
Next country to escape from the clutches of the failed socialist project? Austria? Greece?
Can't wait to see the look on Junckers face - the incompetant deluded fool will probably just completely deny the UK has voted out and carry on as usual though!
Next country to escape from the clutches of the failed socialist project? Austria? Greece?
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Yeah, Greece should never have been allowed in
And prob not to much of a shock if it left
But the UK will "smart"
The nightmare scenario is if the whole EU falls apart
And we have a return to the politics of the 1920's and 1930's
And prob not to much of a shock if it left
But the UK will "smart"
The nightmare scenario is if the whole EU falls apart
And we have a return to the politics of the 1920's and 1930's
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It certainly looks like a Brexit is on the cards
I said on this thread (a few weeks back) that a good friend thought it would go this way - I.e out
I must say I was surprised to hear him say that (as I said in my posts)
I assumed it would a win for in tbh
But the last few weeks it been obvious the tide has turned
The only bright side is wondering what Alcazar will winge about
(Answers on a post card)
I said on this thread (a few weeks back) that a good friend thought it would go this way - I.e out
I must say I was surprised to hear him say that (as I said in my posts)
I assumed it would a win for in tbh
But the last few weeks it been obvious the tide has turned
The only bright side is wondering what Alcazar will winge about
(Answers on a post card)
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No, out means out, in means in (at least for the next two generations or so)
This is a Ronseal vote - please don't vote on the basis that this does not mean what it says on the tin
In or out (we already have membership terms no one else does)
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Even if they somehow manage to fiddle the UK voting 'in' the EU project will end in disaster. We're only a year or two away from the next economic downturn globally, and Europe's going to absolutely explode when this hits.
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This article pretty much sums up my current thoughts...
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...leave-campaign
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...leave-campaign
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This article pretty much sums up my current thoughts...
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...leave-campaign
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...leave-campaign
Read the comments and it is not what the people think, that is far more important
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Hahahahahahahahahaha, my "villa in France" is a little 300 year old farmhouse which I'm busy doing up, while supporting the French rural economy. Bloody won't stop raining now, though
I see the Swedish foreign minister thinks the EU will fall apart with, or without Brexit. The rural french have about had enough, Greece will default on their payment and jump ship if we go, and I believe Spain won't be far behind.
As usual, the socialists have ruined what was a decent idea.
I see the Swedish foreign minister thinks the EU will fall apart with, or without Brexit. The rural french have about had enough, Greece will default on their payment and jump ship if we go, and I believe Spain won't be far behind.
As usual, the socialists have ruined what was a decent idea.
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Do you trust politicians to do what they say they're going to do? Have a read of this!
Project fear is a fitting name, you should be ****ing terrified!
Project fear is a fitting name, you should be ****ing terrified!
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And if you want me to counter his article. Then just copy and past anything recent from Douglas Murray who sits on the other side of the fence.