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10 June 2006, 12:39 PM
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Just a line to say hello i help out on many forums like these as i see many others do to i Specialize in Toad and can offer help and advise where needed
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so dont hesitate to drop me a line
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Come on England
Ian
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11 June 2006, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MR_TOAD_INSTALLER
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12 June 2006, 01:55 PM
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"would be good if they moved forward with technology. Good standard Cat 1"
Age old problem here guys - costs!
We can develop the systems to do as much as you want and be as small as you like, but the first question asked is usually "how much?", so unless the new technology allows it to be manufactured at a greatly reduced cost then the new product is hard pushed to recoup the development and tooling costs that are incurred.
Would you pay more for an updated product?
We have specced a new Toad range on paper, but the costs affecting the model line-up have yet to be addressed if it is to continue to production.
SS
Age old problem here guys - costs!
We can develop the systems to do as much as you want and be as small as you like, but the first question asked is usually "how much?", so unless the new technology allows it to be manufactured at a greatly reduced cost then the new product is hard pushed to recoup the development and tooling costs that are incurred.
Would you pay more for an updated product?
We have specced a new Toad range on paper, but the costs affecting the model line-up have yet to be addressed if it is to continue to production.
SS
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12 June 2006, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sigma Sam
"would be good if they moved forward with technology. Good standard Cat 1"
Age old problem here guys - costs!
We can develop the systems to do as much as you want and be as small as you like, but the first question asked is usually "how much?", so unless the new technology allows it to be manufactured at a greatly reduced cost then the new product is hard pushed to recoup the development and tooling costs that are incurred.
Would you pay more for an updated product?
We have specced a new Toad range on paper, but the costs affecting the model line-up have yet to be addressed if it is to continue to production.
SS
Age old problem here guys - costs!
We can develop the systems to do as much as you want and be as small as you like, but the first question asked is usually "how much?", so unless the new technology allows it to be manufactured at a greatly reduced cost then the new product is hard pushed to recoup the development and tooling costs that are incurred.
Would you pay more for an updated product?
We have specced a new Toad range on paper, but the costs affecting the model line-up have yet to be addressed if it is to continue to production.
SS
12 June 2006, 04:15 PM
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Nationwide feedback from our authourised dealers (both Toad and Sigma) usually puts cost foremost.
You would seem to be in a fortunate, but unussual situation. Nationally a more expensive product, no matter how well specified, would not be welcomed and we would lose sales to cheaper products regardless of their size or older technology. Unfortunately all that usually seams to matter is Cat 1 approval and a low cost.
I assume that when you say more "advanced" you mean more convenience features as little can be done to improve the effectiveness and reliability of a modern "Cat 1" alarm except perhaps addressing the issue of Key Theft.
With the introduction of the Sigma S-Series onto the 08MY Subaru's hopefully you'll be able to just activate the unused features within the standard Subaru S30 system.
On the subject of which, the S30 is considerably smaller than the AI606, uses the latest technology that will go into the next generation AI606, has a comprehensive number of inputs and outputs (including remote start - although it will render the Thatcham status void), accessory sensor sockets to plug in optional dual zone & single zone sensors (with built in pre-warn facility for dual zone), Key Theft Protection feature and is currently available.
Tomorrows AI606 today - I'll wait for the orders to roll in
SS
You would seem to be in a fortunate, but unussual situation. Nationally a more expensive product, no matter how well specified, would not be welcomed and we would lose sales to cheaper products regardless of their size or older technology. Unfortunately all that usually seams to matter is Cat 1 approval and a low cost.
I assume that when you say more "advanced" you mean more convenience features as little can be done to improve the effectiveness and reliability of a modern "Cat 1" alarm except perhaps addressing the issue of Key Theft.
With the introduction of the Sigma S-Series onto the 08MY Subaru's hopefully you'll be able to just activate the unused features within the standard Subaru S30 system.
On the subject of which, the S30 is considerably smaller than the AI606, uses the latest technology that will go into the next generation AI606, has a comprehensive number of inputs and outputs (including remote start - although it will render the Thatcham status void), accessory sensor sockets to plug in optional dual zone & single zone sensors (with built in pre-warn facility for dual zone), Key Theft Protection feature and is currently available.
Tomorrows AI606 today - I'll wait for the orders to roll in
SS
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12 June 2006, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sigma Sam
Nationwide feedback from our authourised dealers (both Toad and Sigma) usually puts cost foremost.
You would seem to be in a fortunate, but unussual situation. Nationally a more expensive product, no matter how well specified, would not be welcomed and we would lose sales to cheaper products regardless of their size or older technology. Unfortunately all that usually seams to matter is Cat 1 approval and a low cost.
I assume that when you say more "advanced" you mean more convenience features as little can be done to improve the basic "Cat 1" alarm except perhaps addressing the issue of Key Theft.
With the introduction of the Sigma S-Series onto the 08MY Subaru's hopefully you'll be able to just activate the unused features within the standard Subaru S30 system.
On the subject of which, the S30 is considerably smaller than the AI606, uses the latest technology that will go into the next generation AI606, has a comprehensive number of inputs and outputs (including remote start - although it will render the Thatcham status void), accessory sensor sockets to plug in optional dual zone & single zone sensors (with built in pre-warn facility for dual zone), Key Theft Protection feature and is currently available.
Tomorrows AI606 today - I'll wait for the orders to roll in
SS
You would seem to be in a fortunate, but unussual situation. Nationally a more expensive product, no matter how well specified, would not be welcomed and we would lose sales to cheaper products regardless of their size or older technology. Unfortunately all that usually seams to matter is Cat 1 approval and a low cost.
I assume that when you say more "advanced" you mean more convenience features as little can be done to improve the basic "Cat 1" alarm except perhaps addressing the issue of Key Theft.
With the introduction of the Sigma S-Series onto the 08MY Subaru's hopefully you'll be able to just activate the unused features within the standard Subaru S30 system.
On the subject of which, the S30 is considerably smaller than the AI606, uses the latest technology that will go into the next generation AI606, has a comprehensive number of inputs and outputs (including remote start - although it will render the Thatcham status void), accessory sensor sockets to plug in optional dual zone & single zone sensors (with built in pre-warn facility for dual zone), Key Theft Protection feature and is currently available.
Tomorrows AI606 today - I'll wait for the orders to roll in
SS
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Sigma Sam you will be suprised the amount of people that want clifford on their vehicles & are willing to pay the extra to get it. I guess its the name?
We do a budget Cat 1 for £195 but the Clifford C650 sells just as well if not better
We do a budget Cat 1 for £195 but the Clifford C650 sells just as well if not better
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Originally Posted by MotorGuard
Sigma Sam you will be suprised the amount of people that want clifford on their vehicles & are willing to pay the extra to get it. I guess its the name?
We do a budget Cat 1 for £195 but the Clifford C650 sells just as well if not better
We do a budget Cat 1 for £195 but the Clifford C650 sells just as well if not better
We have now moved almost all our sales over to the Viper range because they are higher speced and similar in price to the Toad Ai606. We have also moved all our trade customers onto the Avital Maxx 1 because the Toad is far to overpriced for what it is.
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Originally Posted by evolutionice.com
I agree.
We have now moved almost all our sales over to the Viper range because they are higher speced and similar in price to the Toad Ai606. We have also moved all our trade customers onto the Avital Maxx 1 because the Toad is far to overpriced for what it is.
We have now moved almost all our sales over to the Viper range because they are higher speced and similar in price to the Toad Ai606. We have also moved all our trade customers onto the Avital Maxx 1 because the Toad is far to overpriced for what it is.
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