d4ve_h4y

had a car i wanted to go see near fraserburgh so i thought id make a day of it. went out to see it and to be honest i was bitterly disappointed!

5.5k for a standard tired P reg uk turbo which needed a fair bit of work (and i didnt bother asking for the keys)

so thought id go see the lad @ indy car sales. had a look around......of course the cars have no prices......but some have details.

he came over and spoke and to be honest he was nice enough to have a chat with. he prides himself on selling cars that people want to buy.....and sees £££££££ not people. he had a few fresh imports which i was interested in buying as they were. but he wasnt interested - he only wanted to sell modified. so he gave me a NTI price for a K reg impreza wrx with front lip white wheels and a high wing rear spoiler. the total for this car came to £6995 (but he did offer finance)

so i thought id try brian downie. went and had a look round W reg uk turbo for 9k. N reg sti for 9k. 92 wrx for 7k so i didnt even try to talk to the guy.

anyone else even bother with traders??

rant over

drb5

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If you see a trader selling a car at X cost, half it and that's what they've bought it for.(imported)

d4ve_h4y

yup indy car sales had 2 94 wrxs freshly imported......black and silver but he wouldnt sell till they had mods

how can these people still be in business???

drb5

iTrader: (4)

Cause there are people out there, that know the deal and want warranties....the biggest killer for a trader!!

Remember, many people will run these cars on normal unleaded and when it goes pop, they expect the warranty to cover it.....and i imagine it usually does!

d4ve_h4y

most warrantys have small print for stuff like that though........

who buys old imported cars for double their worth and then pays finance??

drb5

iTrader: (4)

God knows.

d4ve_h4y

you a trader? lol

i just find it sooo hard to believe that traders can make up prices that are SO expensive.

are imprezas the only cars doing mods makes more expensive?

my british modded cars have been worth **** all..........

drb5

iTrader: (4)

Nope.

I dunno what the deal is with mods, but all i DO know, is a car with mods out in Japan, is much cheaper to buy than a car without.

WUZ

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Thing is..Aberdeen and Perth are the top 2 places with tthe most Impreza in the country. But these Traders STILL INSIST these cars are rare and are worth every penny.

I was looking at selling my Version 6 STi RA V'Ltd with minor mods and 35K on the clock for £10,000. Better than the Traders deal, I can assure you!

Russell

rossyboy

iTrader: (8)

Me three years ago unfortunately (Indy Cars), before I knew anything about Imprezas.

Having said that, the car looked about 3 years old when I bought it (it was 10 years old) and those that have seen it always comment on its good condition for its age

I will only lose money if I sell, which I have no intention of doing.

d4ve_h4y

some peopel have more money than sense lol

rossyboy

iTrader: (8)

Maybe, but it only owes me a Lamda sensor in repairs in 3 years

Original Engine, Gearbox and Clutch (about to be replaced @53k miles)

Engine hasnt been cleaned since I bought it:

WUZ

iTrader: (14)

looking good Ross

Russell

rossyboy

iTrader: (8)

No bias there eh

I thought you'd be thinking "oh hell ,there's that f**** engine again..."

Looking like I'll be asking you to do the clutch change when you get back as my header tank gave up in a cloud of steam on Sunday I feel a nice Forge one is required...

RA Dunk

tidy engine bay for the age m8!

MazingerZ

Had the same experience with Indy car sales, about a month ago I went a saw a very nice grey impreza sti MY97, it had 42K miles minter!!! he wanted £14K HAHAHAHAHA

THe Guy: "this cars are very desireable and tuneable"....

ME: Yeah tell me something I don't know already...but £14k? I would get a bug eye or early age STi for that money...

The End


I also paid a visit to Bryan Downie.... same experience as the first post in this thread....

Koji Kabuto

rossyboy

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Ouch. Fortunately I only paid about £2k over the going rate and I think I've saved that over the years by not buying a duff one.

G.T.

why not buy privately , there is loads of cracking cars for sale on here

WUZ

iTrader: (14)

Too right! - like a MY00 STi6 RA V-limited with 35K, good mods, well looked after, tuned powerfully but safely...............11,500 ono



Yes, that's right. I'm selling my car! New house needs money spent on it.

Russell

sandyRS16i

iTrader: (13)

Just my pennies worth, but when i was looking i tried loads of places

Indycarsales - The guy was a total arrogant ****, wanted me to tell him how much i had to spend then would tell me if i would be 'able' to buy one of his cars......i told him if he couldn't just give me the price then i would look elsewhere.....so i was told to get off the premises and don't come back.....think the tosser doesn't get the concept of customers and customer relations.....heard a lot of horror stories since tho....

Brian Downie - has nice cars, but a bit pricey tbh

Mackay Trading - found their cars were high quality, but overpriced compared to others

CRD - IMO they are arrogant, they talk down to you and i found them more keen on getting finance and extras for mods than finding the right car

eventually i went to MVM in Cairnyhill outside Dunfrimline, the cars are very high quality, up to that of Mackays IMO and a lot better priced. The owner Charlie was a pleasure to deal with, spent time showing me the cars and giving me advice before i took a test drive, then waited til the one i wanted arrived in stock.........They gave me a good deal and happily fixed any probs i had, which included a full gearbox rebuild and replaced quickshift all under warrenty, with no quibbles or hassle at all. IMO its deffinetel worth going there for a visit and see the quality of cars and service availble......i would if i was ever after another import seriouly go there again

jono300

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Anyone else happily used this MVM off cairneyhil nr dunfermline ?? obviously they have got there act together from what I have read previously on this very forum ??!!

anyone ??

MazingerZ

Is there a website for MVM?

koji

Carl Davey

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Not round our way Dave. I think it speaks volumes that very few of the local enthusiasts have bought from any of the local 'specialists'.

I got lucky with my first Scoob which just happened to be in Aberdeen. Second time around i knew what i wanted. The fact i only ever saw 2 for sale in six months helped me make up my mind i had to travel to get one... 1200 miles later.

My advice would be to decide what fits your tastes best (MY, UK/JDM etc) and then look only for those. I'd steer clear of traders as (like Dave says) anything they're offering in your price range will have been bought in so cheaply it won't be worth looking at.

Russells car seems a good buy but is out of your price range and i suspect you're looking for a UK due to insurance? Considered a fugly? Early newage WRX's are dirt cheap right now due to looking a bit 'different'. Things is they aren't a whole lot worse looking than an early UK Turbo, don't have the Classics image issue and are a whole lot fresher.

Vtec220

www.mvm-imports.com - I bought a wrx from Charlie - excellent to deal with and wouldn`t hesitate to use him again - I think all the horror stories were from when it used to be Sports Car Services - I just about got shafted by them when they were based in Cowdenbeath.

WUZ

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Russells car is no longer for sale!

Russell (happy again!)

jono300

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Asking around locally it would appear mvm -imports are certainly worth looking at, pity there repuation from the " sports car services " days will probably stick with the new owner for a very long time.

at the end off the day thou any dealer who does not sell brand new cars which will create trade ins is only selling cars that have been either imported or sourced cheaply from auctions etc here in the uk, a good valet, a few mods and a warranty . In my mind its worth looking around the private adds first and the for sale boards on here are surely your best bet.

d4ve_h4y

cheers lads i was looking for an early impreza around 3k......pay the 1k insurance and that be that for a year. fingers crossed. so 4-4.5k budget in total

but i dont think i can afford one now im not working

cozzie_man

i think we all being pretty harsh on the dealers prices, they have to cover warranties, pay bills, pay wages and pay vat.....but if they are taking the pis5 with prices just buy private, you get tommet the guy/gal who owned it and see how you think they would drive it, and ask all sorts of questions

d4ve_h4y

i dont feel sorry for traders cos they chose that line of business with the bills *scratches head

traders with jap cars rip people off.

scottySTI3

I bought mine from keighly-Trade-Centre.The car did have a few minor points and I have had a few issues with the after sales and warranty BUT I did get it at decent price and turned out that it has straight cut G/box.
I wouldn't buy off them again and I cant say I would advise anyone to buy from them that didn't have a good knowledge of Scoobs.However they do have a very good selection from Bangers to Mint,so if you know your Scoobs then they might be worth a look.