Johnny50

Right...i had to nip away...

So how did everyone get on ?? Well, i know how some of us did...left just after AndyF`s run.

I`m gutted with mine. 277bhp/255ft.lb

rf.scooby

Hi

I dont know what you are running but what figures were you expecting?

Rich

drb5

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mods?! mods?! were they all taken off johnny??!?!?!!?!?

i know how bad i felt, but thats just downright bonkers crazy!!!!!

Scoty

Johny, out of curiosity, did Jim know your car was mapped by Steve?

Frazer

Clio Cup
R Sport ECU
De-cat
Magnex exhaust
Green panel filter

180.9 hp and 155.3 lb ft (pretty surprised its so low considering it can do 14.1@98 1/4 mile)

Graphs

http://www.btinternet.com/~paulj.ewing/bhpresized.jpg

http://www.btinternet.com/~paulj.ewing/torresized.jpg


Neil

drb5

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was everyones results low or what then?

Frazer

I'd say they are more realistic than low, as I made 180 hp @ star with just the R Sport ECU on it (which has been proved to give no peak hp gains) I bet if I got it re-done at star id be pushing nearer 190 hp now. It also makes a change as the operator guy (sorry don't know your name) talked you through how the system worked etc and also told you if the car was running rich/lean and they laminate your RR graph :-)

drb5

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rotf at the laminate!!!!!

Johnny50

Hi guys....

Seemed like everyone ws getting good figures till i cursed the rollers...lol
Think Coulty managed 240..he`s as gutted as me.
KArt_mans P1 made 240bhp too..

Scoty...dunno who Jim is...is he not the guy at Star ?
This was Dastek.
Either way, no, he wouldn`t have known Steve mapped it.

drb5

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ffs

they want to get them rollers sorted. theres no need for that pish. god, andy must have made about 350 brake then!

Scoty

jim, jimmy m8, the guy at Dastek

No worries m8, was just wonderin, poor result though, not much more than standard realy

Johnny50

hee hee.
Nowt wrong with rollers...
Saab turbo made 360bhp...
Andy was 500+

drb5

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hmm. well something ain't right there m8. you still on the top mount just now?

s-man

For what its worth I reckon dastek are closer to the truth than many other rrs out there and even though it might seem depressing you have to agree that their setup is pretty much as good as you could ask for. Agian, for what its worth ...my standard Sti3 made 284bhp a while back so they were bang on for me.

s-man

drb5

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no offense to yourself here when i say this s-man, but how can anyone explain coulty's figure then, if not johnnys or kartmans??

Johnny50

Nope. HKS front mount.

Dunno...one thing though, it wouldn`t boost above 1.25bar.
Its supposed to me mapped for 1.4bar.

drb5

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christ!!! it must have been one HOT day over there?!

john banks

I think the rollers are pretty realistic, as are Star.

T-uk got about 304 IIRC (with FMIC, headers, TD05, decat, 550s, remap etc) he has had c.340 BHP at Star twice and mid 12s on the 1/4 mile at about 115mph IIRC, but his present backbox does restrict 10 BHP compared to his previous runs at Star.

Dave's std P1 was detting lightly and would have been retarded, 240 BHP is therefore not that surprising. Most P1s at Star seem to do about 10% more.

Remapped new shape WRX with decat did 250 ish, but was also detting and retarded.

Decat new shape WRX did 225.

Mine previously did 403 BHP and then did 434 BHP at Star in very similar spec.

Andy's did about 480 without the nitrous and about 550 with, he got about 10.8 quarter mile at Ten of the Best.

Compare with the same rollers on the same day.

drb5

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i see what your saying there john, but still pretty taken aback by coultys there for instance. pretty much should only have a uk turbo engine with decat and dawes to do a 240brake run then, no?

Dougster

Standard M3 was spot on at 320 and Wrxmanias car gave an accurate reading also.

I don't know any of the later figures for the new age vehicles.

wrxmania

Star before 3" exhaust and STI Panel Filter was 245.7 BHP, 225 Torque.

Dastek after exhaust and filter was 235 BHP and 219 Torque.

Probably equates to 250 BHP at Star?!?I think if I am not wrong John Banks, Andy F etc said this was what should be expected from my car with these mods.

Lots of people disappointed and Dastek did say they were going to check their rollers against some benchmarks.

Can't say I am too bothered either way - I am not tuning it - and it still goes well and sounds the business!!

Brian

sg72

Think? Noones car is specced exactly the same.

So when someones running same Turbo as you.you get disappointed if you get lower figures.
However the whole package has to be looked at.

Right from Air intake to exhaust via turbo/intercoolerwith mapping,type of engine/cams
Fuel system and fuel.Taken into account.

Once folks have been a few times and know what's changed on their car they can then see what works and what doesn't.

Depends what you want to acheive with what car. Some will respond better to tuning than others.

Did you have youre car mapped for new filter /exhaust Bri?

Most of which has been documented.

TheSquirrel

Who mapped it

Let me guess S S

you have PM (in a mo)

Squirrel

simon9

I got 219 with a magnex decat system and blitz filter I did not know what to expect so at least i know what i now have to work with. does this sound about right

T-uk

I lost a bit from my star results as jb has said but I am not bothered as comparing with other cars on the day , it did okay. I was expecting a loss anyway after fitting a quieter, more restrictive back box which also resulted in needing a few degrees ignition removed around peak power.

my boost did near enough what it does on the road and the knocklink was happy during the run , which is the main thing in this hotter weather. dasteks cooling is excellent imo , but I did wonder if the rolling road room , would get a bit hot as the cars where tested but this was not an issue. I was interested to hear that andy f's highly tuned tmic car , only showed a gain of a few degree intake temps over what a run though the gear on the road would show.

I would suggest people do not try and compare one set of roller results with another as you will never know which roads are correct , if all you want is big pub figures then do not go to either star or dastek imo.

Andy.F

I agree that the strong point about these rollers is the repeatability, to do 2 runs within less than 1% of each other makes them a great tuning tool.
Not sure why the flywheel figures should appear to be IRO 10% lower than Star for example, which in turn is a further 10% lower than some of the Southern rolling roads ?
Power at wheels seems in line with the other rollers.
As mentioned previously though, you shouldn't compare different days/ different rollers and expect to come up with any comparative data.
Scoty, who is jim/jimmy ? It's Gerry at Dastek.

Andy

sti-04!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...f/scan0002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...f/scan0001.jpg

My results !

Dont no if they will come up:0

I got 260Bhp & 267lb ft Torque

So i cant really complain

Andy.F

Didn't get a good look at your car, any mods ? any other RR results ? What are they from the factory ?

Andy

sti-04!!

Andy, its a MY04 Sti, sti panel filter & blitz nur spec r all the way to the downpipe so not full decat

Allegedly they are 261 Bhp from the factory

Thanks

Stephen

Ps was really wanting 275 - 280 but that wasnt to happen giving that the 3 PPP Sti's got between 276? - 283?

Some disappointed guys when i left

Dougster

Andy, do you still have the ap22?

We could have a day at yours by the seaside and you would be the one having all the fun!!!

Dastek guys were letting some of the cars run in that little hot room for ages without the fans on. What's that all about? And they could have had everyone done quicker than they did.

Maybe I'm just used to Jim's goldmine conveyor belt at Star!!!