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Old 12 January 2014, 12:37 PM
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Default Nurburgring crashes 2013

Sorry if this is a repost, as the title says and if the link works. A collection of crashes from the Nurburgring.
Look out for the Scoobies, I spotted two.... 0:40 Bug & 1:34 Blob.

http://www.vidiload.com/10504/2013-s...gring-crashes/
Old 12 January 2014, 12:59 PM
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Quality, the reason why I never go around a corner faster than the speed limit! That Skyline at 1.55 nearly took out the 'Born to Race' villain.
Old 12 January 2014, 01:25 PM
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What speed limit would that be then? It's unrestricted apart from at adenau bridge and the start/finish.
Old 12 January 2014, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
What speed limit would that be then? It's unrestricted apart from at adenau bridge and the start/finish.
30-60. Had a corner incident at speeds not many have done on here in a straight line.
Old 12 January 2014, 02:20 PM
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Hopefully you aren't serious, you can do more than double your top speed completely safely at a lot of the corners there.
Old 12 January 2014, 10:02 PM
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@2.30 is that a hatch on it's roof????
Old 12 January 2014, 10:27 PM
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Mental!
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Originally Posted by BoozyDave
@2.30 is that a hatch on it's roof????
Astra VXR I think
Old 13 January 2014, 08:40 AM
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No corner is safe at the ring. Too many British nutter a is the trouble, don't know what they are doing
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It looked like crashing to me.
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
Hopefully you aren't serious, you can do more than double your top speed completely safely at a lot of the corners there.
I'm guilty of having the odd blast away from the lights as is everyone but I draw the line at cornering fast, even on a spirited drive on a desolate country road.

The back end of the Impreza is highly unpredictable and if the back does go correcting it only results in a snake.

3 times I've fought with the wheel around roundabouts at speeds well under the speed limit. Once I was guilty on a wet roundabout of jolting the wheel right to induce a bit of oversteer, it didn't end well, wife said "you never had control then did you." I replied "I did." I was telling fibs.

I've fitted a rear roll bar now and the car is far more planted but still no excuse for madness on public roads.
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I have actually braked on the drag strip btw.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
The back end of the Impreza is highly unpredictable and if the back does go correcting it only results in a snake.
I disagree on both counts.
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I tend not to agree, my RA has one of the most predictable and controllable back ends i have ever driven. Infact every time I loose the scooby in some shape or form it always shocks me at how easily it is rectify the slide, understeer or oversteer. Driver not machine maybe....
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Originally Posted by urban
I disagree on both counts.
Shocked me tbh, thinking about it I've read a few differing opinions of how an Impreza handles (or 4x4 in general) on the edge.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Shocked me tbh, thinking about it I've read a few differing opinions of how an Impreza handles (or 4x4 in general) on the edge.
I've driven Impreza's for around 15 years, and my opinion is people think they're invincible when they get behind the wheel.
Back end is one that always comes up, and I reckon that most people send the Subaru into a bend at speed, panic a bit, then back off the accelerator abruptly and maybe even brake a bit.

This then causes the back end to go very light, and then the fun begins.

What is it that shocked you about the Impreza?
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Originally Posted by urban
I disagree on both counts.
so do I.
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I'm amazed at some of the angles you can get an Impreza into, and yet still control it.
Not on public roads of course
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
I'm guilty of having the odd blast away from the lights as is everyone but I draw the line at cornering fast, even on a spirited drive on a desolate country road.

The back end of the Impreza is highly unpredictable and if the back does go correcting it only results in a snake.

3 times I've fought with the wheel around roundabouts at speeds well under the speed limit. Once I was guilty on a wet roundabout of jolting the wheel right to induce a bit of oversteer, it didn't end well, wife said "you never had control then did you." I replied "I did." I was telling fibs.

I've fitted a rear roll bar now and the car is far more planted but still no excuse for madness on public roads.

Its more than likely because you are a sh1te driver

Backing off mid bend because you run out of talent is disastrous in an impreza. I used to drive my classic very quickly when I was in the mood, the car always felt planted and under control.
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Originally Posted by urban
and I reckon that most people send the Subaru into a bend at speed, panic a bit, then back off the accelerator abruptly and maybe even brake a bit.

This then causes the back end to go very light, and then the fun begins.



^^^^^ this 100%

Caused by inexperienced drivers who think they are the next lewis Hamilton.
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Indeed, and then probably stand on the brakes for good measure.
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Originally Posted by urban
What is it that shocked you about the Impreza?
Perhaps it was the discovery that they're not invincible!
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Perhaps it was the discovery that they're not invincible!


Or going backwards at 70mph due to lift off over steer, and the fact that he'd shat himself in the process
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Originally Posted by urban
I've driven Impreza's for around 15 years, and my opinion is people think they're invincible when they get behind the wheel.
Back end is one that always comes up, and I reckon that most people send the Subaru into a bend at speed, panic a bit, then back off the accelerator abruptly and maybe even brake a bit.

This then causes the back end to go very light, and then the fun begins.

What is it that shocked you about the Impreza?
Just how quickly the back end wants to go at legal public speeds.

When I first bought the car twice the back end became skittish going around roundabouts at 25-30mph. I actually tried to casually get the back end out on a quiet damp roundabout to try and get a feel for the car, I had no chance, luckily I was only going 20 or so and it came to a natural stop.

I have the utmost respect for the grip levels now and will not push the car in any circumstance. That said at higher cornering speeds I found the Imp ironically more controllable, I think the car naturally relinquishes grip. :/

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Budget tyres would cause this, but honestly dude are you sure you have an Impreza???? Because this isnt the normal traits of a subaru. Maybe they are not for you. stick to a micra or something.
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Originally Posted by Ross0604
Budget tyres would cause this, but honestly dude are you sure you have an Impreza???? Because this isnt the normal traits of a subaru. Maybe they are not for you. stick to a micra or something.
So an Imp is a good car to get going sideways? I always read/found on tarmac it wasn't.

Maybe it's lack of experience trying to go sideways on lumpy potholed public UK roads???

Maybe you are all right? I am a sh*te driver, who never breaks the speed limit and also idiot who puts people's life in peril because I drive slowly to a car garage thinking a pad has worn down even though it was just a slightly binding caliper piston.

Would a non-stickers VTA-less Micra that I could potter about in make me more accepted in this community? I could take it on my dad's field and get it going sideways to appease you all?
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You can get an Impreza going sideways on tarmac if you want, its not difficult.
Controlling it requires some driving ability though.

Anyway, back to the20mph over steer moment.
What tyres were on the car at that time, because that is most definitely not normal.
Was the road overly greasy?
What time of year was it - winter?

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Originally Posted by urban
You can get an Impreza going sideways on tarmac if you want, its not difficult.
Controlling it requires some driving ability though.

Anyway, back to the20mph over steer moment.
What tyres were on the car at that time, because that is most definitely not normal.
Was the road overly greasy?
What time of year was it - winter?


Just ignore him, the bloke is a ******* idiot.
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Originally Posted by urban
You can get an Impreza going sideways on tarmac if you want, its not difficult.
Controlling it requires some driving ability though.

Anyway, back to the20mph over steer moment.
What tyres were on the car at that time, because that is most definitely not normal.
Was the road overly greasy?
What time of year was it - winter?
TBH when I first got the car I slid it around a wet country road at 50-60 nicely but at lower speeds in the damp or dry when going around tight roundabouts the back was always twitchy and when it did go the car snaked badly as I fought with the wheel. Tyres were Michelin Primacy.

I'm not a brave driver by any stretch of the imagination but a cautious experienced one. I have lightweight wheels on now, the car is 120kg lighter and I have fitted drop links and stiffer ARB the car feels like it would cope with corners now, if I was ever foolish enough to push my boundaries, but it wasn't the case when I bought the car, it wasn't something to disrespect.
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Originally Posted by urban


Or going backwards at 70mph due to lift off over steer, and the fact that he'd shat himself in the process


The nearest I got to that was a 180 degree about face at the end of Bedford's 1Km straight after I went 5th to 2nd by mistake, doing well over the ton at the time.
I had to catch my breath after that one
I was very fortunate that there was no trackside furniture to hit, and very lucky that I had a passenger on board who had the incredible presence of mind, while I was trying to straighten the car out, to knock the stick out of gear and saved my engine from a severe screamer.


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