GONZO01

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Anyone had any kind of experience of these in any shape or form (driven one or had a little play with one). The reason why I ask is I saw a lovely looking one the other day and it pulled into the car park where I was and I must say it looked and sounded lovely. Just wondered what the tuning/handling limits are on these and if they are quick. I'm currently thinking about changing my classic Scooby running 320 bhp and 320 lbs of torque and until now never really considered anything other than a newer Scooby until now and just looking for people's thoughts and experiences with these cars if any.

thenewgalaxy

Nice cars.

Very quick and lots of grip, quite a few people on here have moved onto these cars from Newage Subarus.

Not for everyone, myself included but if you're after something that can be tuned quite reliably to mid to high 300s on the horsepower front and has a fast car image to match then it'll probably be up your street.

In terms of performance I am not convinced these cars are any quicker than a Prodrive Newage STi in stock form and I know for a fact they are murdered from a standing start by an Impreza.

I know they have clever suspension and diffs etc but I think 300bhp is too much to put through the front wheels.

donny andi

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I have a green 59 plate for sale.....£17k

juggers

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You replacing it with a scoob

donny andi

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Transit sport! **** the cars I never use them

mazmike

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not had one keep up on the track

Hughy

I had a RS before I got the new saloon 2 years ago, one hell of a car, looks and power, I have not driven my car for a while due to having an operation on my ankle so I've been sat at home board with a lot of time on my hands and looking at auto trader and piston heads, to cut a long story short I decided it was time to get rid of mine and go back to the RS, I went yesterday to test drive a RS 5 miles from my house, I first went for a spirited drive in mine as I forgot what it was like to drive it then I got to the garage and the guy let me take the RS out by myself as he had my car and keys, well I drove round for 5 mins nice and steady then I gave it hell , I'm so glad I went for a drive in mine first as the RS was a great drive but not a patch on the scooby, The RS is great car for sure but if you want a fantastic all round car (power, looks and 5 doors ) then stick with what you know, but that's just my opinion

Here are the two cars side by side

STEVECHAPS

Mountune do a warrantied insurance recognised 350 bhp package (like a RS500) and a non warrantied 375 bhp kit.
Going to be quite rapid once rolling!

EssexJamie

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I love the looks, the sound and the interior......hate the thought of 300BHP in front wheel drive car, or a GGR 370BHP one trying to put the power down.

XDevil666

Argh! I really love that Scoob of yours!!! Gimmie gimmie!

theboy

I drove one other week that was putting out 375, now that was rapid. Im just in process of buying one. In standard trim they wont beat a Scooby from the lights but i dont buy a car on traffic light racing capabilities. Being a RS its value is never going to plummet, and my personal view is the interior is far superior to the Scooby Hatch (although maybe im biased)

STEVECHAPS

Was that the Sytner one? What did you go for in the end?

EssexJamie

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RS's don't plummet?! The MK1 RS can be had for £5k now they drop there price the same as any Hot hatch / sports car that's rolled off the production line in large quantities there's loads around where I live in mk1 and MK2 guise........the problem is it's missing 4WD and that Cosworth badge, RS Cosworths don't plummet!

urban

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They are nice cars.
But they do have issues getting that power down on the road, and they have real issues with torque steer still - albeit not as bad as the old model.

Fudgey

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there are a few knocking out over 600bhp from sitech racing and jamsport etc, needs the block pinning at that horsepower and obviously lots of other mods, but they make for one hell of a rapid car!

urban

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What's the point of trying to put 600bhp through the front wheels?

Ash170990

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Very easy cars to drive, lovely noise and loads of tuning potential.... plenty running over 500+bhp, ones even over 700bhp.... handle like a go kart and if you want to have a bit of fun easy to play about with lift off over-steer... i loved mine and would happily have another, only thing i would say is get one already modded to at least 400bhp.... and make sure it wasnt mapped by collins performance lol

Ash170990

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Drive one... only 1st and second gears have a problem, as soon as your in 3rd there mental...

The mk1 RS is 11 years old, and that will probably be either a rubbish example or a cat d write off for 5K, nice ones still command 10k which is half the price they were new.... The mk2 is now 4 years old and is still commanding £20k on average... hardly call that plummeting when you look at say a CS400 scoob? £50k new can now be had for £30k.... the equivelent RS to that would be the RS500, which have lost around £5k from the list price in 4 years..... says it all really...

I thoguth the same, but if you see the jamsport cars or greg maxwells one running 700+ youd be surprised....

GONZO01

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The white one in question had jamsport stickers on it, so I wonder what bhp it was running?

EssexJamie

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Nope there's five decent MK1s for under £6k on passion ford and pistonheads, my mate bought his FRS last year for £6200 FSH and GGR upgrade package and it's mint. Shoddy build quality though the seats and interior is terrible, but it has a decent diff so helps get the power down a bit better.
I would say average price of proper nice ones are around £7k

So wheels spinning up in 1st and 2nd pretty pointless then losing two gears out of a car, I don't really see the point in fWD cars over 250BHP tops!

I was a complete Ford nut having owned Sierra Cosworths, RS turbos, and my dad owning 4 Escort Cosworths and still owning one now....but since the RS Cosworth Escort the RS badge has been a disappointment!

I'm not comparing them to Imprezas I don't partially think the Hawk and later Imprezas hold there money well at all unless there JDM models.

I was just trying to say that I wouldn't say a RS Focus is not going to lose money as it will.

I do really like the FRS MK1 and MK2 just the FWD puts me right off, I've been to look and buy 3 FRS MK1s but always come away feeling it should have been 4wd!

Ash170990

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Only one i can see on pistonheads under £6k is this one:
http://passionford.com/forum/cars-fo...us-rs-mk1.html
and that clearly states Cat D.... on pistonheads, theres only a couple i would be happy to buy, and theyre both over £8.5k... Maybe im just too fussy?

Only spins in first and second if you nail it, if you feed the power in it grips and goes...

Persoanlly, i think the mk1 and mk2 are both great cars even though they dont wear the cosworth badge

As for losing money, i think youd be fairly safe with a mk2 FRS compared to other new cars, you may lose £2k-£3k on the focus, but that would be compared to like £5k-£10k on other cars... so i dont think their too bad... the mk1 is hte same, i dont think they will drop much lower than they are now...

donny andi

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Pointless thread..... Nip over to the rs forums

It's like posting on the mlr 'thinking of buying a Subaru' .....brings all the muppets out
Why anyone would want a focus with 500 horses baffles me

Maz

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He's hardly going to get an objective reply from the RS fanboys is he?

donny andi

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But he will get one off scoobynet ....c'mon we all know a 93 wrx is the dogs bollox and they eat lambo's for breakfast.....

I said to nip over to the rs forums to find out more info/what to look out for etc

Fooooking place gets worse.....

EssexJamie

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Best place to ask IMO is pistonheads.....but wherever you ask won't be a fair judgement as it will all be down to the individuals own advise and opinions

Maz

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There's lads on here who've owned both!

scoobysteve1983

i work for ford and could have had a mk2 with employee discount but chose not to, purely on the basis that it should have been made as a 4wd. ford chose not to do so as it was far cheaper for them to use the existing focus chassis rather than to re design it to accommodate a 4wd transmission. not trying to take anything away from the rs as it is a very nice car but i dont care what you say about clever diffs etc, you cannot expect to put that much power through two wheels and have it go where you point the wheel!

Maz

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Give over Steve! How dare you present a balanced and impartial viewpoint. This place.........

XDevil666

Which ever way I looked it, if I was leaving the fold I wouldn't be heading for a car that's 20k for the same bhp, I would be eyeing up the big 500+ cars

Fudgey

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If you work for for then you should know that the kuga 4wd system fits, but in reality its mot much better than the fwd system it comes with as standard.

If you drive around everywhere with your foot flat to floor then of course it will wheelspin, but on the big power ones they would have been mapped to have different boost in gears to make it drivable.

Search youtube for vids of the sitech racing 600+ ones, they go pretty well!