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Old 30 September 2013, 03:31 PM
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I sold a set of wheels on Ebay for pittance really just to clear. The Chap emailed me this....

I will send my courier and he will take the wheels on Saturday or Sunday. Whells dont' have to be packed. Send me please the address where J could take them, poste code & your telephone number.
To me it sounds dodgy or am I paranoid? No payment has been made.
Old 30 September 2013, 03:40 PM
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No payment, no wheels fella!!!
Old 30 September 2013, 03:43 PM
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I know, the auction was cash on collection. I've had people come to pick things up before and it hasn't bothered me, something just doesn't seem right this time. The email has come from Ebay.pl (Poland I'd imagine).

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Old 30 September 2013, 03:53 PM
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Will most likely send you a fake paypal link that
will say payment has been made.
Old 30 September 2013, 03:53 PM
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If your paranoid , not really worth having your garage, car, house scoped for a grubby set of rims is it ....
I would decline also
Old 30 September 2013, 04:09 PM
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A number of possibles, as said already.

Another is phishing.

Address gives the ability to find out your name.
Email gives email address, which is likely to be the one linked to your PayPal account.

Give the address of a nearby shop or pub, Police Station - something that will be open when the courier's expected, where you can easily meet them.

Oh, and that doesn't have the same postcode as you.
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email back saying ill send details to collect once payment is received.
Old 30 September 2013, 04:25 PM
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If it's cash on collection I don't see the problem, If whoever comes to collect them doesn't bring the cash with them then they don't get the wheels... Simples
Old 30 September 2013, 04:29 PM
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Courier collecting on a Sat or a Sun also? Doubt it.
Old 30 September 2013, 04:35 PM
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It might not be the wheels that are the target. It could be the address and other personal details.

Fancy a Subaru for nothing?
Find someone selling some scooby cast-offs and get the address.
You'll probably find the rest of the car there.

And off we jolly well go.

Worse, name, address, email address, telephone number, account to pay money into (and a few other things that can be worked/found out I won't mention) and your account's going to be emptied.

We know the saying if it sounds too good to be true etc.

Another is that if it doesn't sound straightforward it possibly isn't straight.
Old 30 September 2013, 04:42 PM
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I don't know what the wheels are worth or like, but take photos with a dated item ie' paper. Might get them picked up and then say they was damaged and paypal will give him a refund ( if its that payment method ), had a bloke turn up at nearly 1am, haggle the agreed price, then went for a refund, lucky I didn't loose out at I could prove them was fine,
Old 30 September 2013, 05:05 PM
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You all sound parnoid... chill boys

No payment- no wheels. Some people only pay cash and if the agreement is cash on collection then that is a contract. If he/whoever collects fails to bring the money then do not let them have the wheels..

If it falls through- advertise them again
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Originally Posted by blackvenom
I don't know what the wheels are worth or like, but take photos with a dated item ie' paper. Might get them picked up and then say they was damaged and paypal will give him a refund ( if its that payment method ), had a bloke turn up at nearly 1am, haggle the agreed price, then went for a refund, lucky I didn't loose out at I could prove them was fine,
hows that work then as ebay only refund a paypal payment, im assuming he didnt turn up haggle then pay via paypal.
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The plot thickens, looks as though I've made a mistake and left the option to pay via paypal. And that is what he has done, isn't this a "take the item then claim it was never picked up".
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Cancel sale- sold elsewere
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Allways worries me when people can't spell simple words. On face value, scam/dodgy.
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I've sent this...
"OK thanks,
Can you send me details of the courier company please?. I will need to contact them regarding me tracking the wheels and me having a receipt. It's likely I will take them to work with me, so there are others around to witness the collection and of course CCTV. I will send you the address once I have received the required information regarding the courier company coming to collect."

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Old 01 October 2013, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
The plot thickens, looks as though I've made a mistake and left the option to pay via paypal. And that is what he has done, isn't this a "take the item then claim it was never picked up".
Might be.

Sorry I've not been in until now.
I'd have jumped in with both feet and said they'll want to pay via Paypal soon.

It's a phishing trip.
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Originally Posted by Kwik
I've sent this...
"OK thanks,
Can you send me details of the courier company please?. I will need to contact them regarding me tracking the wheels and me having a receipt. It's likely I will take them to work with me, so there are others around to witness the collection and of course CCTV. I will send you the address once I have received the required information regarding the courier company coming to collect."
Clever. Good one
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I'd not be happy giving details to that either, you could take them to work and get the courier there if you have to or get a time and meet at a services possibly.
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I've not had a reply!
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Originally Posted by Kwik
I've not had a reply!
Damn !

Now we'll never know if they wanted your wheels, your house contents, bank account or the whole lot.

But at least you're left with peace of mind.
Old 01 October 2013, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by grey_boy
Cancel sale- sold elsewere
+1
Old 02 October 2013, 04:01 PM
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The Information about the courier company:
PIOMAR TRANS
ul. ŻWIRKI I WIGURY 10
37-450 STALOWA WOLA
PILAND
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Seems legit
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The chap lives in Milton Keynes.
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Originally Posted by Kwik
I've sent this...
"OK thanks,
Can you send me details of the courier company please?. I will need to contact them regarding me tracking the wheels and me having a receipt. It's likely I will take them to work with me, so there are others around to witness the collection and of course CCTV. I will send you the address once I have received the required information regarding the courier company coming to collect."
Aside from the issue of you providing your location and assuming the payment is legit, I don't understand why you are concerned about tracking them. Surely, if the buyer is arranging pickup, that's his problem and all you need is a photo of the wheels going into the van with the driver's face clearly visible. Thereafter, not your problem.
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PM me the details of the wheels and price I might have em. Problem solved.
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There are ******* out there! I for one dont take any chances anymore.

If people want to collect stuff, they meet me in the local supermarket carpark, and if they want to post things back, they get my work address!

A few years ago a friend broke a decent DH bike into bits and posted them all on ebay. Someone dodgy bought a cheap item off his list and requested an address to send a cheque to before posting. 2 nights later his garage was emptyed and no cheque turned up. Police later implied that the email address linked to the paypal address was a local gaggle of pie keys and there was nowt they could do.

Could have just been coincedence, but you cant be too careful! Especially if for whatever reason you have doubts about theyre scruples! they shouldnt have any issue collecting from a local supermarket etc.
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Originally Posted by gdavey
Aside from the issue of you providing your location and assuming the payment is legit, I don't understand why you are concerned about tracking them. Surely, if the buyer is arranging pickup, that's his problem and all you need is a photo of the wheels going into the van with the driver's face clearly visible. Thereafter, not your problem.
The idea is that the buyer would later say they weren't collected and paypal then refund. A picture of them in the back of a van could be anyone. That's the idea of cash on collection, that there's no comeback.
The buyer is getting aggressive now, his account is registered in Poland yet his address is MK.

It's all a bit much for cheap alloys.


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