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Old 18 September 2013, 06:09 PM
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Default Will i need brake upgrade for 300-315 bhp?

Do you guys recommend I change my standard 4 pots to brembos on my bugeye , before I get it remapped to 300-315bhp ?

Or will the standard brakes be ok for this power?
Im changing my td04 for td04 hybrid.

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Old 18 September 2013, 06:11 PM
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Depends how you drive it.
good pads will help but a brembo conversion will be better.
Old 18 September 2013, 06:14 PM
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Not sure if its worth the extra cash, I dont think Brembo's are all that to be honest!! Maybe a better brake pad and discs on your bugeye with some braided hoses will make them feel a lot better!!!
Old 18 September 2013, 06:24 PM
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maybe look out for some second hand k-sports, be better than brembos
Old 18 September 2013, 06:26 PM
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hi, in my view, brakes vs bhp is a very strange thing that goes around.
if you dont track the car then standard is more than adequet. if more power means your gonna start hammering up to corners n braking hard then yes, better brakes would help, the bhp isnt the factor, your driving style is

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Old 18 September 2013, 06:35 PM
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Better brakes is always a good thing to do,but as said before the subaru brake set up can be made to work well with upgraded disc and pads,brembo calipers are a better caliper then the standard subaru four pot the advantage being able to use bigger disc and pads the only rub is that you need larger wheels to be able to fit the brembo caliper.SJ.
Old 18 September 2013, 06:50 PM
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will brembos fit under my grid drifts

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Old 18 September 2013, 06:52 PM
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im running 315 on my wagon and i bought scoobyworx refurbed calipers with godspeed 6 slot discs and his kevlar pads and braided lines and its now a pretty good setup. as said brembos are better but unless you track the car i wouldnt bother as the set up will cost prob over 500 quid
Old 18 September 2013, 06:57 PM
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I upped my classic to 325bhp and felt the need to upgrade the brakes shortly after
Old 18 September 2013, 07:09 PM
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look lofty its simple.your upping the power to go faster right? so going faster will mean you will need to stop quicker in some cases

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Old 18 September 2013, 07:46 PM
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shreksta - true mate ok will start saving for some brembos then

cheers for the input chaps
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Make sure the Brembos fit under your wheel or that will be more expense, if they don't get up-graded discs and pads at least.
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I would sell you my porsche 6 pots but I ****ing love em
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
I would sell you my porsche 6 pots but I ****ing love em
Stop being a teaseSJ.
Old 18 September 2013, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
Stop being a teaseSJ.
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Just looking at the godspeed website and ian offers a 335mm disc upgrade to use with the std cast 4 pots. Supplies a braket to move the calliper out etc. so with some decent pads its a viable option.
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As said above - depends on how you drive. Other than decent disks and pads I would never have spent big money on brakes even if I went over 400 bhp.
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Re furb makes a hell of alot of difference on most older cars, as the oem pistons corrode alot, even after 5 years.
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For the sake of £400/£500 quid brembos and braided have changed my car completely.

I am now getting itchy for k-sports, AP's or porka 6 pots but on the road I am happy with the b's for now.

I am in a classic however so it is lighter and therefore easier to stop. But with 440bhp regardless of weight the standards weren't cutting the mustard, especially for fade.

And... bigger brakes look the nutz.
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Originally Posted by type-rob

And... bigger brakes look the nutz.
they certainly do.............

Old 19 September 2013, 08:30 AM
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Them Porsche calipers are top draw.Nice.SJ.
Old 19 September 2013, 08:42 AM
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Just moved 2 places up the shopping list! Lovely stuff
Old 19 September 2013, 09:02 AM
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I'd keep an eye out for some AP's in the for sale section, they can be had for as little as £600 and are far superior to brembo's.

The 4 pot AP's are very good and fit under 17's.
Old 19 September 2013, 09:09 AM
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I first upgraded the power in my blob to 340ish and did a track day at Combe with bog standard brakes, not recommended but hey I lived.

Next step for me was the Godspeed 335 kit for the 4 pots which with good pads and braided lines worked well, then a deal on a set of k sorts came up which I am on now.

I never had any fade on track with the above setups, but I know of many people with brembos who have complained of fade, so maybe they're not all that!

Decent pads, discs, lines and fluid set up well on your car would be my first choice, see how that works then think about spending more if needed.
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looking good shreksta, deffo going for brake upgrade, brembos or aps will do.
thanks for the feedback guys
Old 19 September 2013, 08:05 PM
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How much do second hand AP 6 pots with 356mm discs go for just over a year old?
Old 19 September 2013, 08:34 PM
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You can stop with owt, it's after that when you've put heat into them, a good capable caliper and pad combo will solve it, along with decent fluid although normal fluid will cope if you don't hammer it for long.
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
I would sell you my porsche 6 pots but I ****ing love em
How deep are his pockets
Old 19 September 2013, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustoe91
How deep are his pockets
not deep enough,the kit was £2100 new and i put new discs and pads in them last year...................£900
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3k bet there quality though


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